Frightening Calls From Fake Debt Collectors Threaten People With Jail for Payday Loans. It’s a Scam.

Steve Rhode
 
 

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Dec. 5, 2009

Phony debt collectors with Indian accents are calling people trying to scare them into paying debts that are not theirs. Some of the company names they use are American Credit Services, TAC Evolution, Allied Financial Services, CashNetUSA, Sonic Bank, Sonic CashNet, CashLand, and Cash America. If you know of others, please add them in the comments section below.

The fake debt collectors call and say you will be arrested and thrown in jail unless you send money immediately. The amounts claimed seem to be $400 or $1,095 and a smattering in between. The calls most often arrive on a Friday when all government office are closed so you can’t check out their story. The callers use the names of real attorneys they found on the internet.

The goal of the scam is to scare the person getting the call into sending money via Western Union or MoneyGram or to give up their bank details to hit your bank account, in order to prevent the police from coming to arrest you in the next few hours.

If you want to listen t what these calls sound like, click here.

Apparently there are a number of telephone numbers tied to this scammer that I believe is calling from a call center in India via voice over IP, (VOIP). So the callers really are not even in the United States although they pretend to be.

Armed with the contact information the scammers in India call make outbound calls on a VOIP telephone line and forge any outgoing phone ID they want. It’s not hard to do. (By the way, if you want to unmask any blocked number and find out who is calling, try Trapcall.) They might even use a number from a block of VOIP numbers they’ve rented to receive return calls. After a short period of time they dump the number and start using a new number.

I found at least one of the numbers listed as being used by these scammers was issued by LES.net, a VOIP service provider.

The known numbers tied into this scam are:

  • 213-221-1002
  • 213-286-0210
  • 213-286-2016
  • 213-550-4189
  • 213-995-3046
  • 310-362-4305
  • 310-362-4319
  • 310-362-9386
  • 313-332-1091
  • 343-729-0397
  • 407-506-0424
  • 408-317-0831
  • 408-355-9951
  • 415-223-4108
  • 415-880-5599
  • 496-900-0000
  • 619-342-0094
  • 714-333-2945
  • 714-333-2951
  • 714-400-0563
  • 714-409-0208
  • 714-409-0250
  • 714-845-0766 (FAX)
  • 718-831-7157
  • 818-936-4699
  • 904-425-9141
  • 941-961-8518
  • 949-743-1049
  • 973-200-6686

Most of the people who have been called in this scam seem to have previously had a payday loan from some company. What I suspect has happened is that one of these payday loan companies used an outsourced call center in India and someone from that call center sold the names of the customers or contacts.

The BBC did an undercover report a couple of years ago and showed how easy it is to buy this type of information from call centers in India.

The names of the Payday loan providers seem to be just a smoke screen. The scammers use both the name of a real payday loan outfit and sometimes a real attorney to make the receiver of the call think it is legit if they check it our on the web. It’s all a lie.

So I had fun calling them. They certainly sound like they are trying hard to scare you with an Indian accent. Bureau of Criminal Identification. LOL I asked for Jeff Parker and they said they’d route my call to Jeff Popkins it sounded like.

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And if your name is Dave Roberts, I apologize, it was the best fake name I could makeup on the spot. And if you listen carefully you’ll here the stupid fake collector say he found my file for Dave Parker. Dude, Parker is the name of the fake collector that called.

The call ends abruptly, they hung up on me. LOL. What idiots.

From A Debt Collector Keeps Calling Me From 212-500-0839 And Says I’ll Be Arrested. – Lavern

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  1. I wrote back in March about these scum calling me representing InstaCash USA. I actually was on the phone with them when I went to file a police report and told them they could talk to the police officer. That is when they hung up. I have not heard back from them in over a month and now, starting yesteday, I got calls again from people with indian accents calling from 404-397-1970 and 646-224-9884 telling me to call 646-727-4437. The man who left the message has a thick indian accent and said his name was Andy Rogers with Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS) and it was in my best interest to give him a call back before an affidavit against me is downloaded. I have not called him back. But I am saving each and every voicemail. Do I need to file yet another police report? I have done searches for ACS and the 646 numbers and from what I can find this is the same scam different name and number. Is this true?

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    Gav Reply:

    Do you really think it’s worth the time? These guys are calling from India! No body in the US can touch them, and nobody in India cares!

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    MissM Reply:

    Yeah I remember getting phone calls from these people claiming to be from ACS a couple years ago. Now I’m getting the same harassing calls but they claim to be from Morgan and Associates. I’m so sick of these people!

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  2. I just received a phone call from these scum bags and was told the first time around that the company that was calling me was Legal Legislation Bureau and they were calling on behalf of insta cash. I was told I owe 5484.87 for a payday loan I never took out so I asked alot of questions and with every response the idiot on the phone would get more and more frustrated because I kept telling him I didn’t understand what he was saying and asked him to spell everything lol I asked for the phone # where I could contact them back and he gave me 520-208-2027 I proceeded to ask more questions until the guy got tired of spelling the answers and told me I was wasting his time and hung up on me. I called back and got another guy who’s english accent wasn’t quite as thick as the first guy’s but it was still Indian so I still had a hard time understanding but this guy was more consistant about answering my questions except for the fact that when I asked what the name of the company was he said it was Legal Legislation Of Insta Cash so I called him on that and he proceeded to tell me there were a few different departments within the company I said okay…he told me I had three charges pending on me and I had to be in court by 5:15 PM today in California and I Live in Chicago or else the police here would be coming to my job to arrest me for charge 1 – Violation of federal banking regulation Charge 2- collateral check fraud and last but not least Charge 3-theft by deception and was also asked if I have ever been arrested for anything like this before and I replied no. I just kept the questions coming by now I am fully aware of their game and asked them to tell me where to send the money and he responded that I would have to pay it over the phone so I said well how about you give me the phone # to your client so I may call them and see if this can be settled out of court and he said no I said why not and began asking the same questions all over again finally he got fed up and said “you dramatic a**hole” and he hung up. I gotta give him credit he hung on longer than I expected lol. Oh and I will admitt I called back and played the message you had on here and the moop that answered the phone screamed you arrogant american a**hole and hung up. I am actually thinking of calling the on a daily basis to bother them like they bother so many other people who’s with me?

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    Steve Rhode

    Steve Rhode Reply:

    That is hilarious!

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    Gil Reply:

    I call these guys at 559-399-0355 everyday and mess with them. They change the name of the so called law firm they say they work for. I just make up a name and they put me on hold then come back and say I owe money. After they read their script they tell me to go and get cash cards and fax them the numbers from the cards along with a letter saying I will not dispute the payment. I then go off on them and let them know I am onto their scam. I all ways tell them I am David Johnston made up name and ask them for the guys name they gave me John Anderson or John Davenport. It has gotten to the point now that I bother so much they turn their phones off. I am having a ball messing with these guys. Everyone should call these guys and bother them so much that they have to turn their phones off.

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    RavenZero Reply:

    i’ve been called a couple times. jumped on the internet while talking to him, saw these, and told Mr. Alex Williams (the name he was going by and had a very thick accent) of the Federal Legislative Department of Justice (the place he was claiming to be) that i didn’t have a credit card. he wanted me to pay in Wallmart Gift Cards so i asked him who he said he worked for and he told me the legal department of instacash. i then told him that he had claimed to be from the FLDoJ and he told me he was and was representing instacash. i called him a lying scam artist and told him genish was a rat. he got pissed and hang up!

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    Dee X Reply:

    I’m withy ou. They called me with this same BS yesterday. And told me exactly what you just wrote. I asked a million questions. The first gut got so irritated with me because I couldn’t understand him, he gave his friend with a less thick accent, to speka with me. As I asked him more & more questions, he got irritated and hung up on me. I plan on harrassing them daily. My husband has a deep professional voice. Today we are going to be the FBI and call these jerks and scare the hell out of them. I also googled the phone number that he called from and there is no such business listing. There has to be something that can be done about this. Making a police report won’t help any of us victims.

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  3. I just got a call from them today and they added to mine that they could get me to lose my job since I’m a government employee. hahahaha I just called them back to tell them there is a reason why they run scams like this…because their loser asses cant make money the honest way. I also had to add if it was up to me we would wipe them off the planet. The number thats calling me is 6198634542… have fun calling them. I think I will call them every 3 hours and do my best fake accent and harrass them. :)

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    Michelle Reply:

    This is funny cause I got the same phone call about the same time from the same number, the messege I had was at 11:24 a.m. We called back today telling them we had our lawyers phone number, (gave them the number to the Romeoville Police department whom we’ve filed a complaint with) they proceded to tell us that we would have to have our attorney call them (unlike yesterday when they ASKED for our attorney’s phone number) and then hung up the phone. Turns out they called hubby’s work as well. This is all very annoying, and scary, they have our account number, hubby’s social security number, our address, it’s scary. I’m so glad I googled this phone number, and instacash.com, otherwise I’d be spending a whole lot of my time worrying. It will be interesting to see if we get “served” papers on monday. Interesting side note, yesterday’s voice mail and today’s voicemail IDENTICAL. And at the end telling us “may God save you” another reoccuring phrase it seems among all these complaints…never heard an attorney say anything about God, nor a collection agency. We need to be contacting our news stations so that they can do a story on this to warn people…not everyone thinks to google before moving forward.

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    Amanda Reply:

    I agree this needs to be released into the media so others will not fall for it.

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    Chris Reply:

    Well I fell for it I got a call at 10:00 am and told me I owed 300 dollors and I was to be in court at 11:00 am.. I freaked cuz they told me I all my information.. After bout and hour wasted phone call I hung up they called back 3 times.. The second time the guy said I’m sorry but will you be my g/f I was like huh.. He got very very annoying and perverted each time he called..
    I went to the police station and had them call this guy on the phone.. The detective told him don’t call her phone anymore.. Well I thought that was the end .. Soon as I left the guy called back and told me he knew my address my ssn and my husbands name and he will come rape me if I didn’t pay..I knew the first time he was a scammer cuz collection people dont talk like that.. This guy named Richard thick Indian accent.. Kept calling.. Finaly I got my phone number changed and haven’t heard anymore since…Just wasted minutes and tme worrying!!

  4. How do you get them to stop calling you at work. My boss has been informed and is plotting to scam them back. It’s ridiculous, scary and kind of embarrassing since I don’t owe anyone money. The problem now is that they call while he’s not in the office and we tell them to call back after 5. They proceed to use profanity at us even though we tell them they are being recorded. This needs to be stopped, although I don’t know how.

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  5. There baaaacccckkk…and they are scarier than ever. Now its a “Senior” detective and she wants to know why I didn’t take care of the debt Davenport called me about and when I informed her that I knew they where a scam and had reported it to the fbi and ftc she was adamant that they are not and that I could call who ever I needed to. Also claime I told Davenport “catch me if you can”…never happened…but only because I didn’t think of it :o) must have got my file mixed up with one of you guys lol…seriously though I recommended that she take a moment to google their phone numbers and she would get a clue that the scam is over….oh well

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    Chellie Reply:

    oh yeah the new number is 214-884-5476 and Senior Investigator Tyler

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    Dee X Reply:

    And 602-926-7340 (Mike)… When I called back, they told me to ask for Scott Reynolds. Yeah Right. I plan on harrassing them big time today. It’s Friday!

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  6. Make room in the boat for me! These people have called me 6 times today from local numbers and from 646-224-9884. I got a woman with an Indian accent claiming that my husbands brother listed him as a reference and she needed to talk to my husband. The name she gave wasn’t my husbands brother and I told her as much. I didn’t let on that I acutally do know the person she’s referring to, though, lol. He’s MY brother! She called back to back calls when I refused to hand the phone off. I had every intention on getting an air horn after we finished dinner but I decided to google me up some info first. This is where I landed. I hope they call back. I’ll call them out for extortion and fraud after I inform them that I’m tracing and recording the call to turn over to authorities. Maybe they’ll realize I’m on to the scam and move on? :/

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  7. There has to be a common denominator here. Just like in the video, people buying Norton were targeted. I would look for who is your cell phone carrier, what applications have you filled out, who do you bank with? India may be “untouchable” but if we can trace the breach to a company here that uses Indian call centers, maybe we can get them to do something and if not, boycott em.

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  8. I too have received calls from these people. One number was in Binghamton, NY and the other in Canoga Park, CA. It is the same story…but when the CA people called me, I was a bit more assertive. I quoted the Fair Debt Collection Act to them and they instantly got hostile….”Who the HE** are you to take that tone with me? I will destroy your life in 2 days when you are arrested.” I told them that they are violating U.S. law with their actions. He demanded to know if I was an attorney. I think that the next time I call back, I will be an attorney! It will be interesting to see what happens then!

    My call from NY was similar. Both started the conversation with “who is your attorney of record?” I told them I don’t have an attorney, and that is when the hard scare comes in.

    Like many above, I called them back multiple times just to mess with them. I called the carrier of the NY number and reported the fraud to them. They, at least, appeared interested.

    Be strong!

    You can add 818-746-3566 to the list of numbers. I tried calling the service provider, but the information I got from them was all recorded (couldn’t track down a live person) and unless I was with law enforcement or trying to serve a subpoena, the recording said there was nothing they could do. I got the impression that they know or don’t care that their numbers are being used for fraud.

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    Tracy Reply:

    I probably should have mentioned that the CA call was supposedly from the Law Offices of Anderson & Associates on behalf of InstaCash.USA.

    The calls from NY (which came in with both a local number and the international number of +052312293 out of Mexico) were on behalf of Advanced Payday Plus. I made them give me the number of the actual loan company by asking over and over and over again for it. I then called the payday loan company directly and the same dude answered using the different company name. He wouldn’t give me any info so I hung up. I then called back a while later to the payday loan number and the guy answered with the legal company name. I said, “dude, you are so busted. You already answered the phone using the wrong company name you moron. He got very angry and flustered…stammering that they get so many calls from the legal company that he simply made a mistake.” I had until 6pm to settle the debt. I never did. The “lawyer” called me back several days later telling me that the deadline was 6pm that same day. I told him that he was wrong because he had told me that the deadline was already 5 days prior when they first called me.

    I did report this to the FTC, but I doubt there is much that they can do.

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  9. Beware!!!! I have got a call from 914-371-6826 from Dennis with a very thick Indian accent telling me I had a loan with CASH ADVANCE MUTUAL. He has all my info and a reference name. The second call I got was from Liza Walker. They told me they have 3 counts or charges against me charge 1 – Violation of federal banking regulation Charge 2- collateral check fraud and Charge 3-theft by deception. They want to take me to court and they said the State of New York does not tolerate criminals like me and they hung up. We need to do something about this!!!

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    RD Reply:

    I got the same call about 2 hours ago from the same number from someone named Richard Williams with a thick accent. “Richard Williams” come on. First they left a message on my cell phone using the phone number +052480189, of course I didn’t answer it and who the heck would call back someone when they can’t understand what they are saying. Then about 3 mins later they called my job,and left a message with the Receptionist to have me call. I deceided to hit the “Google Trail” and find out what is crazy stuff is.

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  10. Today I received a phone call from this number (646-224-9884).I did not answer the phone because I did not know the number. It was hard to understand what he was saying because of his extra thick indian/middle eastern accent. They left a message informing me that I was being taken to court and needed to contact them imediately. They left the following number (347-844-6831). When I called that number back in order to get details as to why there someone was taking legal action against me. They told me I had took a payday loan out in the amount of $300.00 and never payed it back. I told them I had not and would be reporting this to me police dept because I had some previous fraudulant activity on my banking account. They then told me they would take me to court and hung up. I decide to go to the police dept and on the way called them back. He gave me a different name and asked if I was calling back to resolve the issue. I said I was trying to get it resolved it by contacting the police and have them look in to it. They then told me they would proceed forth with legal action and hung up.

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  11. Hello,
    I was recently the victim of this organization. And indeed it was a pay day loan that I had not paid. After intense threats and repeated harrassment I paid the loan via money gram to a company called “by the river group llc”. Many of you here have said there was an accent however the call I recieved came from 2148845476 and none of the people I spoke with had an accent. At this point I have already paid them however I want to take legal action. I am filing a complaint with the FTC. Any other reccommendations?

    Thank you

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    Rachell Reply:

    My caller also stated at first, that they were Anderson Law Firm. I got ahold of the real Anderson Law Frirm to let them know that their name was being falsley used. I also contacted the FBI were the call was comming from. (You can google the number and locate it) I also got ahold of the States Attorneys Office. They jumped on it right away and sent me a form to fill out, then sent me a postcard saying that they had received my information.
    Good luck! They have started calling me from all sorts of numbers and area codes now. Everytime I get a phone call and dont know the number, I google it to make sure that it is legit.
    Once again, good luck.

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  12. 1(914)371-6826 they call from ACS and leave the messages everyday and say that I need to call them back before the payday loan company takes action against me. I applied on the internet but NEVER got a payday loan! I have the statements to prove it. I have a recording of every voice mail the leave. I plan on calling them and recording that too. I put a fraud alert on my credit report, contacted the Attorney General in my state, canceled my checking account, and contacted the FTC. I tried to contact the police but since there hasn’t been a crime yet…they haven’t gotten any money from me, there is nothing they can do.

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  13. I HAVE BEEN GETTING THESE PHONE CALLS FROM VARIOUS NUMBER, THEY ARE VERY RUDE AND HARD TO UNDERSTAND, THEY HAVE EVEN CALL MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT. THEY SAY THEY NEED MY LAWYER TO CALL AND ALSO THEY HAVE SAID THEY WERE AN OFFICER. I REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO THESE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THIS.

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  14. I am so glad I listened to my insticts and followed up. Thanks for posting this information and letting me know I am not alone. I have another number from these guys it is 717-862-4080 and they are stating that the company is Cash Express USA. Again, we didn’t even apply for a loan. I find it appauling and scary that these guys have so much information!!!

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    DENISE Reply:

    I AGREE, THEY KNOW ALOT OF INFORMATION AND I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE GET IT FROM. I ALSO HAVE HAD DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BUT THE SAME VOICE, RUD AND APPAULING. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING TO THESE PEOPLE ANY IDEAS I AM OPEN.

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  15. You can add United Attorney Services at 909-436-4472 to this list. I got a call today stating that criminal charges had been filed against me because I hadn’t paid back a payday loan from Insta Cash. I got a feeling that this was scam because of the threatening manner in which I was treated when I didn’t answer their questions or provide them with any personal information.

    I’m not sure what legal recourse I have – they refused to provide me with any documentation to the legitmacy of the loan. All I was told that I had no right to deny the loan and that I could take care of it with them over the phone or they’d send an enforcer to my house to take me to the court house to answer the questions and that they would make sure that I lost both my house that I they would get me fired from my job by tomorrow.

    This is a scam. Don’t provide them with any information. Demand that you provide you with the paperwork. And make sure you file a claim with the Federal Trade Commission, the State Attorney General and the Department of Financial Institutions. If they keep harrassing you – call the cops.

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    Martha Reply:

    Like one of the commenters above I was told I was being charged with the following:

    charge 1 – Violation of federal banking regulation
    Charge 2- collateral check fraud and last but not least
    Charge 3-theft by deception and was also asked if I have ever been arrested for anything like this before and I replied no – which is when I started asking questions and not providing any information to them.
    I don’t know what information they have on me – we never made it that far in the conversation.

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  16. I wish I would have read this article months ago! I took out a few payday loan in 2008 to pay for school. I have repaid these a**holes over $7000 thinking that i was doing the right thing, oh and they threatened to have me arrested at my new job. Everytime I pay one off a new one pops up and wants more money. I have had two different companies, Department of Law and Justice, and Center of Finance and Investigation, call me today demanding money or they would drag me to court or have me arrested at work. When I told “Officer Jones” (yeah right) thst he could kiss my a** cause I called a lawyer and I know my rights, he promised me that he would make sure I was fired from my job. I feel like an idiot for paying these rats, but I am a single mother who was terrified that they would press charges!!! If these guys call you call your state Attorney General and file a report at the Federal Trade Commisions website! It feels good to finally be able to tell these people to F*&^ OFF!!!!!!

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    Steve Rhode

    Steve Rhode Reply:

    LeLe,

    I’m so sorry to hear that you paid. How did they have you pay, via Western Union? Do you still have the payment instructions they gave you? I’m curious where they are.

    So glad to hear you’ve now been enlightened.

    Steve

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  17. 334-876-7560 — New number from Alabama. I receieved this call yesterday from “Cynthia.” I received my first call from these scum bags months ago stating they were named Mark Vincent. I was livid that they called me again with this bull…so I had fun with it. I called them about 10 times and when the voicemail came on I played some Lady Gaga for them…about 5 minutes worth ech time I called. I think i may harass them every day.

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  18. I got a call from 562-592-2301 I knew right away it was a scam.. For revenge I called them back and pretended as if i was going to pay these fake debt of 793.50. Claimes to be a company called fastcash advance. when asked for the address he gave me101 east kanthiki bronx city, ny 10454 ( i googled it as i was on the phone) When i told him that was not the address he hung up on me. Its sad that this day in time people are scamming people. They asked for a debit card. Do not confirm any information with them. They will continue to call you from different numbers.

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  19. I received 8 calls from them these people claiming to be lawyers from Insta Cash. The phone number came up as 0000. I didn’t pick up and let them go to voice mail and listened to their message (which you could barely understand). I answered the last time they called and ‘Peter, Peter Wilson’ went into his whole speech about how I was being served and they wanted to verify my information. He got upset when i kept telling him i could not understand him and i do not give or verify information with companies when i do not know who they are. he ‘transferred’ my call to his supervisor ‘Alex’, who when I asked him for information about who was suing me, said, if you aren’t going to give me the information i want, i am not going to tell you what you want. I am just waiting for them to call back. You messed with the wrong girl scammers!

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  20. I received a call at work on Friday from a 562-684-4999 number stating to call back as soon as possible about a serious situation. I called the number back and “Alex” with a strong indian accent that I could barely understand told me to give me the phone number and fax number to my attorney. I asked what this was about and he told me I was having criminal charges brought aganist me I needed an attorney. He says he was calling from Anderson law Associates in California. I stated I live in VA and started asking questions and he hung up. So a little while later I called back and he kept haning up. I called later and a random voicemail message came on stating the mailbox was full. Ok, first of all a real attorney’s office would have told me the charges and sent me a letter. And their phone would have their name and number and stating what I need to do. I am guessing this is from a payday loan I am not sure since he did not give me any info, just kept stating I was going to be served on Monday with papers and to find an attorney. What a Joke!!

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  21. Just started recieving these phone calls as well. The number is (563) 248-2086, and claimed to be with the company, Edward Jones. We were infomred NOT to contact PayDay One directly and when we did so, found out that we were not the only ones to have gotten this SCAM Call!

    Without thinking and checking, we had given out our bank information, and were able to get to the bank and stop the withdraw from happening, so now the calls are stating that we are still owing the money since the card number we provided has been reported stolen.

    I returned their phone call today and told them that if they wanted to send the authorities to go ahead and that we are armed with the information we need to prove that the loan in question is in good standing and that a number of complaints about this SCAM with PayDay One customers have been reported!

    Good luck to anyone else who has gotten these calls, and it would have been nice if the loan companies would have notified their customers when the complaints stated to roll in so that the customers could be more aware on how to handle the situation!

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  22. I rec’vd calls threatening to put me in jail, and stating they were “special investigators” etc.

    They were from a different company—-Purdie and Associates out of Atlanta,GA.

    They told me if I didn’t pay them they were going to have me arrested and put in jail.

    I agreed to make a ONE TIME payment to them with my debit card over the phone.

    4 months later, June 30, 2010 they withdrew $400.00 from my checking account using my debit card #. They did not ask me if I wanted to make another payment—just sent me a receipt by email!!

    They have overdrawn my checking account and when I called them, the manager (Invesigator Milton) said that I entered into a repayment agreement with them and that they could take money out of my account anytime. I told him that when I made the previous payment that it was a ONE TIME payment and that “Investigator Anderson” agreed to that and stated that she documented that it was a one time payment and that I would call back to make any future payments.

    “Investigator Milton” stated that what I was saying wasn’t true, and that they had a recorded conversation with me agreeing to these payments.

    I asked him, Would he please listen to the conversation? that I did not agree to this and never let anyone automatically withdraw money from my account, he said he didn’t need to.

    I have disputed the withdraw with my bank.

    I hope this turns out OK—that was my mortgage payment they stole from me!

    Any advice?

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  23. I filed this complaint with the FTC, the Illinois, California and Florida Attorney General offices.

    On Saturday morning, July 3, 2010, I received call from a man with a heavy Indian accent, claiming to be named Ben Thompson from American Legal Services. He said he was a lawyer retained by Cashnet USA and that I had committed bank fraud by applying for a payday loan and giving them false banking information and they were now suing me. He told me that I was sent an email with the “affidavit” and asked what my lawyer is doing about this. I told him I had no knowledge of this and then he proceeded to read me the “affidavit” – saying I signed a contract and defaulted on this loan and was being sued for bank fraud and credit fraud. I told him this was impossible. That I in fact had taken a loan with Cashnet USA – but I am looking at bank statements and all the payments had come out of my account with no issue. He then told me that he was transferring me to a “senior lawyer”.

    When I spoke to this man – also a heavy accent – he was rude and threatening – told me I’d go to jail, etc. I told him I had proof of these payments to Cashnet USA and then he told me it wasn’t Cashnet USA it was QuickCash.net. Then he said I had to go to court on Tuesday his client isn’t interested in getting a settlement they want to sue me and I would be responsible for all fees and that the email they sent to me – outlined everything. I said I never received an email and he then said – check your spam and I said – just resend it to me – I want all the details. He then said I’m not sending you anything – I’m too busy – call me back in a half hour or you’re really going to be in trouble.

    So – I hung up and I googled Quickcash.net there is no company or website for this – but there were a number of people where the same thing has happened to them. I also contacted Cashnet USA and right on their website is a consumer warning about this exact thing. Apparently – somehow – if you’ve ever taken a payday loan – these people some how have access to your records – they tell people they are lawyers and you’re being sued – if you don’t comply you will be arrested and your employer notified. They tell you – the costs will be in excess of 5,000.00 but if you pay – anywhere from 200.00 to 1,000.00 you can avoid this.

    I called the number back I was given and told them I searched this online – found out it was a scam. Filed a complaint with the FTC and would be filing a complaint with the Illinois Attorney General and hung up on them.

    They called back and left a voicemail message that they were transferring my files to Lisa Madigan – the Illinois Attorney General and to call them back with questions.

    I let it go – but I am really angry – so this morning I decided I’d mess with them. I called and a woman – again with a heavy Indian accent answered the phone. I asked the name of the firm again and told them I want to go to court and asked her for my court dates and time, etc. She told me she didn’t have the information that the main office is closed and that they are a back office. Then asked where their main office is and she said it was in Citrus Heights, CA. I asked for the number and address there and she said she couldn’t give it to me – but to call back tomorrow.

    I told her they really called the wrong person – my son is a lawyer and worked at the Department of Justice in DC Three years ago – this is all true and that I searched them online and saw this was a huge scam. She said something which I could not understand. So I hung up on her. Then I called about an hour later and a man answered and I told him my name and that I wanted to information for my court date and he told me I had to call back. I said the attorney I spoke to was Ben Thompson and he said he would be back tomorrow. I asked him what states Ben Thompson could practice law in and he had no idea of what I meant. Then he said that the affidavit was downloaded somewhere and that’s the state the case was in – again issues understanding him. I asked them why if they had no information was this back office still open – he had no answer to that – my feeling is rather than buckling they just put you off to avoid answering any real questions and most people want to avoid going to court – so I called him on it and said I was willing to go.

    I told him I knew this was all a scam – the phone numbers had been searched and there are a numbers of sites online with complaints of the same thing happening. I told him that I have notified all the authorities and I was taking further action and he was so arrogant – he said – you can do anything you want. I said of course you say that cause you are operating from outside the US and you know it’s that much harder to find you.

    Here are the new numbers they called from – on my caller ID came up as 052586773. The number I was told to call back was 850/254-8883 which is a Tallahassee number – it came up as a landline and the service is XO Communication – a company that links global numbers to one US number. When I questioned what their address was – I was told their main office was in Citrus Heights, CA – but they would not give me an address. When I questioned farther about the different numbers – they only said that each time they called a different number would come up and the Tallahassee number was a back office. I further questioned and asked what state’s can Ben Thompson practice law and they had no idea what I was talking about. When I searched for a Ben Thompson attorney – I found only one in Nebraska and one in Colorado.

    The 850 number is still in service – I encourage everyone to call and just inundate with phone calls! They operate on fear and none of us have anything to be afraid of!

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  24. I just received calls from these same people today, at my job, claiming to be Anderson Law Firm, this time. A few weeks ago, they called claiming to be Legal Accounts Association, the number is 562-684-4999. Same Indian accent, same threatening jail, legal actions, etc…Told another lady in my office that “I was a criminal” and wanted to speak to my supervisor. When I told them that I had filed with the FTC (which I did 2 weeks ago) and also the state’s attorney in Illinois, they hung up. I did reverse phone look up and this number is somewhere in Long Beach, CA…. They DO operate on fear…Remember no reputable lawyer or even collection agency is going to threaten you with bodily harm, or lock you up. You have rights and they can’t call you on your job, if you’ve asked them not too. The only problem is, since you can’t get an address, you can’t send a “cease & desist” letter. Continue to “push back” with these people, and file complaints until we can get them stopped. This is just ridiculous and most aggravating.

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  25. I just got a call from them and I knew right a way they were a scam they told me my SSI number was blocked and my drivers lic is on hold by the govenment who ever heard of such bull crap I called ask him if the money is going to muslims terrorists and he got very upset next time they call just insult islam and put down muslims call them terrorists he said remember 911 and bin laden will attack america on july 16 2010

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  26. I had this happen too. Worse yet, they kept calling my work, where it is my boss and myself and another office who rents space from us. Not only were they disturbing my work which was extremely heavy at the time. And they kept calling. And kept calling. Non stop. I contacted the Ohio State Attorney General’s office, the first time. I contacted them again when the calls resumed a couple of months later. I finally called my local police and have not heard from them since. This is not just a scam, these are extortionists who are engaging in telephone harassment. I don’t care if they are coming from India, somebody in the US is getting the money for them.

    BTW: I never had any payday loan from the company they claimed I did. I contacted them to verify. I might have actually applied for one, but never took it. I even ordered all my old bank statements just to be safe. I never gave them money and I won’t now.

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    In Illinois Reply:

    I just got another call – this time on my cell – I let it go into voicemail – same Indian Accent – same threat – have your lawyer call me, etc. this time the number that came up on caller ID was 24852548592 – too many digits to be a US number. I think they really do not give up.

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