ABC Debt Relief Switches From Selling Lloyd Ward Debt Settlement to Selling World Law Plan

A tipster sent me an email today letting me know that The Debt Answer/ABC Debt Relief have now started selling debt relief services under the name of World Law Plan.

ABC Debt Relief is a company I have written about before. You can find previous articles here. With the new telemarketing sales rules going into effect today it appears ABC Debt Relief has switched from selling the debt settlement services of Lloyd Ward, a Dallas attorney, to now promoting themselves as World Law Plan at the same business address of 12655 N. Central Expwy Suite 800, Dallas, Texas 75243 they have used before.

What’s ironic is that it appears the World Law Plan site is using the same settlement examples and testimonials that ABC Debt Relief used to sell services for other providers.

In fact the “Real” customer testimonial graphic says it is for Lloyd Ward. Word back from Ward tells me he says he has nothing to do with World Law Plan.

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And here is a settlement letter they are using that says it was for another debt settlement lawyer they promoted, Simon & Bocksh. – Source

On the World Debt Plan site they say this about that settlement letter:

Bank of America’s books showed an outstanding balance of $7,296.47 for this client. We immediately stepped as an advocate for the client, handling all exchanges with Bank of America on the client’s behalf. The client enrolled in our Debt Negotiation plan to begin accruing money as soon as possible. We were able to achieve a significant reduction in the client’s account balance during our negotiations with Bank of America. Ultimately, the client became responsible for a renegotiated balance of only $1,100.00, payable in intervals—totaling only 15% of their original balance. – Source

The odd thing is it’s not even their client and for a completely different firm and happened before World Law Plan even existed.

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Even more interesting for me is that I recognize the video that tops their site as the same one ABC Debt Relief used to market services for Lloyd Ward and Simon & Bocksch. I guess everything got recycled.

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Video of audio and video from abcdebtrelief.com representing Lloyd Ward & Associates.

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And then there is this statement on the site.

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When should I consider bankruptcy?

Bankruptcy is very serious and will stay with you for the rest of your life. Nothing is as damaging as Bankruptcy and the negative impact on your credit can be overwhelming. Bankruptcy is for consumers who are in serious financial hardship and for those that generally cannot even save minimal amounts to settle their obligations.

Nothing is as damaging as bankruptcy? Well what about the problems surrounding poor debt settlement like delinquent accounts, aggressive collections, getting sued, negative credit for seven years?

Even the site says:

In our Debt Settlement Plan, creditors can report your accounts as late, which will have a damaging effect on your credit score. Once a mutually agreeable renegotiation is reached with each creditor, the creditors will mark the account as “Settled with a zero balance “… “Paid “paid satisfied”…..”Paid settled”…Or something similar.

What they fail to mention is that the amount of debt forgiven can also appear as a black mark on the credit report for seven years.

So if bankruptcy is for consumers with “serious financial trouble” then are the solutions offered by World Law Plan for people that don’t have serious financial trouble?

And as I depart this article I thought it would be interesting to see when the company World Law Plan was formed in Texas. According to the State of Texas there is no company registered under the name World Law Plan.

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Since World Law Plan says it’s a member of the American Bar Association I then called the ABA and was told that World Law Plan can’t be a member since a law firm can’t be a member, only individual attorneys. World Law Plan lists no attorneys on the site.

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Even the Texas Bar Association has no record of a law firm called World Law Plan.

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According to public records the domain name used by World Law Plan, debtelimination.co is actually owned by Truman Hedding of El Segundo, California. “Truman Hedding is an Internet Marketing Consultant and owner of TruInteractive – a boutique Design & Search Marketing Agency.” – Source

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  • 2cents

    What I mean is you make implications rather than speak facts. I’m new around here. I chime in when I can. I like this site because it allows me the opportunity to banter with consumers needing advice. I surely did not mean to offend you. Sometimes I take things personally when the story, to me, looks one sided. Like GOPs and DEMs. When in the grand scheme of things life’s too short. Maybe I’ll get a chance to catch up with you in another thread.

  • Anon

    I wonder what the FTC thinks of the fact that World Law does not even use any exemptions like the face to face- they simply charge “legal fees” based upon how much the client owes but they say the legal fees are for something else but again, they are based directly on how much the client owes.

    Maybe the FTC is just going to let them do business as usual with this model and show everyone that when they make a ruling, they don’t really mean to enforce it except for maybe a token action here and there with a couple easy to persue small players?

  • ComplianceSlave

    I guess I don’t understand your reply to my post. Yes, there is a new law. One which does not fully exempt attorneys. The FtC stated that attempts by debt settlement firms to partner with law firms is in fact a violation of the law. The law states that debt relief services cannot charge up front fees for service. The “spirit of the law is to protect consumers whose financial situation may change by insuring they don’t pay for a service they won’t receive” as quoted from Allison Brown with The FTC.
    The meek would be those few companies that don’t charge up front for these services. I’m guessing you are an affiliate sales company of The World Plan since obviously you prefer a way to get around the law.
    I suppose we will see how it goes. Honestly your post makes no sense. Good luck.

  • 2cEnts

    What do you mean when you say “good guys?” The Govt put you through something? I’m confused. There seems to be a lot of rambling, such as, talking about the meek shall inherit the world?

    Not all forums are substaniated with evidence; most are just rotten, bitter opinions. Just saying….

    P.S. the FTC did do something….they implemented a new law regarding telemarketing and debt settlement…..Again, just saying.

  • Jen6774

    Are you saying that this is a scam? Please…make it simple. I thought that I was trying to start over and move in the right direction, but if this is the wrong direction, can you please just tell me.

  • Jen6774

    Are you saying that this is a scam? Please…make it simple. I thought that I was trying to start over and move in the right direction, but if this is the wrong direction, can you please just tell me.

    • Anon

      I wonder what the FTC thinks of the fact that World Law does not even use any exemptions like the face to face- they simply charge “legal fees” based upon how much the client owes but they say the legal fees are for something else but again, they are based directly on how much the client owes.

      Maybe the FTC is just going to let them do business as usual with this model and show everyone that when they make a ruling, they don’t really mean to enforce it except for maybe a token action here and there with a couple easy to persue small players?

  • Steve Rhode

    Couldn’t find Any Street on Google Maps. :-)

    Just because I think this will come up again, I created an archive of the WorldLawPlan.com site, here.

  • Guest

    Curious… Any relation to World Law Plan with the website worldlawplan.com? (by the way, check out the contact address! 2010 Any Street, Dallas, TX?!) Which looks a heck of a lot like worldlawdebt.com, which is the new incarnation of Swift Rock Financial?

  • Guest

    Curious… Any relation to World Law Plan with the website worldlawplan.com? (by the way, check out the contact address! 2010 Any Street, Dallas, TX?!) Which looks a heck of a lot like worldlawdebt.com, which is the new incarnation of Swift Rock Financial?

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      Couldn’t find Any Street on Google Maps. :-)

      Just because I think this will come up again, I created an archive of the WorldLawPlan.com site, here.

  • ComplianceSlave

    A rose of another color?……… I wonder if the FTC or Consumer Protection Financial Bur or State bars or AGs will actually do anything? I have to say we have spent a small fortune insuring compliance & to know our investment may be a complete waste as these “companies” continue with scamming as usual… Really sucks. No other words. Action needs to swift & harsh. Lead companies I spoke with today have indicated its pretty much biz as usual under these BS models. When will the meek inherit the world? We were “meek” before & that won’t change, but after all the Gov put even the good guys through, they better freakin back it up

  • http://www.ftc.gov ComplianceSlave

    A rose of another color?……… I wonder if the FTC or Consumer Protection Financial Bur or State bars or AGs will actually do anything? I have to say we have spent a small fortune insuring compliance & to know our investment may be a complete waste as these “companies” continue with scamming as usual… Really sucks. No other words. Action needs to swift & harsh. Lead companies I spoke with today have indicated its pretty much biz as usual under these BS models. When will the meek inherit the world? We were “meek” before & that won’t change, but after all the Gov put even the good guys through, they better freakin back it up

    • 2cEnts

      What do you mean when you say “good guys?” The Govt put you through something? I’m confused. There seems to be a lot of rambling, such as, talking about the meek shall inherit the world?

      Not all forums are substaniated with evidence; most are just rotten, bitter opinions. Just saying….

      P.S. the FTC did do something….they implemented a new law regarding telemarketing and debt settlement…..Again, just saying.

      • http://www.ftc.gov ComplianceSlave

        I guess I don’t understand your reply to my post. Yes, there is a new law. One which does not fully exempt attorneys. The FtC stated that attempts by debt settlement firms to partner with law firms is in fact a violation of the law. The law states that debt relief services cannot charge up front fees for service. The “spirit of the law is to protect consumers whose financial situation may change by insuring they don’t pay for a service they won’t receive” as quoted from Allison Brown with The FTC.
        The meek would be those few companies that don’t charge up front for these services. I’m guessing you are an affiliate sales company of The World Plan since obviously you prefer a way to get around the law.
        I suppose we will see how it goes. Honestly your post makes no sense. Good luck.

      • 2cents

        What I mean is you make implications rather than speak facts. I’m new around here. I chime in when I can. I like this site because it allows me the opportunity to banter with consumers needing advice. I surely did not mean to offend you. Sometimes I take things personally when the story, to me, looks one sided. Like GOPs and DEMs. When in the grand scheme of things life’s too short. Maybe I’ll get a chance to catch up with you in another thread.