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Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

Not all that long ago I wrote an article about an email Credit Mastery Challenge sent out. You can read it here.

In the comments for that article a reader, Elliott, came forward and make a claim that he had paid for services and asked for a refund in accordance with his agreement and Lang Smith refused to provide it.

I’ve had my first experience wit Lsmithenterprise and it hasn’t been pleasant by any means….I paid him for this service and guess what….NOTHING HAPPENED. He asked me to go through another program of his that involves the use of a CPN, I said ok and after 45 days…..NOTHING HAPPENED…I call and text and email him about a refund and after 80 calendar days….NOTHING HAPPENS, needless to say I’m now out of patience and will stop at nothing to get JUSTICE – Source

I asked Elliott to provide me with documentation to support his claims. The information is below.

I paid Lang Smith $2,000 to repair my credit $1,400 via Paypal (Feb 11 & 16) & 600 via bank wire (Feb 25) before I found out it was illegal to request money upfront for credit repair. He told me it would take 30 calendar days before my negative credit was removed and replaced with 3 primary tradelines, I paid Lang Smith via Paypal to Debt Solutions Unlimited, Inc.

30 calendar days later he said that the company he was going through required more clients in order to process the credit repair, he told me this 30 DAYS AFTER THE FACT. He asked that I stick with him and try his CPN program he sold me upon and he wouldn’t charge me another dime upfront but a backend fee upon getting me funding, he stated this would take 45 calendar days.

He provided a CPN number in 3 days and 45 days later which was suppose to include several tradelines…The tradelines never posted and I requested a refund immediately. He agreed to refund me in 5 business days and to confirm via email and never did so after several emails, phone calls and text messages he never answered me again until now.

He said it would take another 30 days to pay me because he doesn’t wanna throw his “Books” off. He claims to make OVER SIX FIGURES A MONTH but can’t pay me because of tax purposes and threatened to sue me if I slandered him.

Here is what Elliott said about the documents he sent me below.

“Here is the Credit repair app he gave to me to fill out and return, he requested that I make a cash deposit to his bank account, I refused to then he decided to let me pay via PayPal. The broker involved has now confirmed he will help me in any legal action I seek against Lang Smith but I don’t know which direction to go first. Here’s his banking Info, FYI

Bank of America
600 Sea Island Rd
Saint Simons Island, GA 31522

ECR Solutions, LLC
4720 Salisbury road
Jacksonville, FL 32256

Acct: 334025717026″

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

As you can see in this document the claim is “We guarantee that all negative entries from all three credit bureaus will be remove in 25 days of order and receipt of full payment or you will be issued a full refund.”

As part of the credit repair services it appears that Elliott was also sold services to provide him with an alternative number to use in place of his Social Security number. This approach uses what is called a CPN number.

The CPN or Credit Profile Number or Credit Privacy Number is a scam I’ve written about before here. As you will see in that article the FTC has said that the practice is illegal.

But it appears Lang Smith was attempting to sell the consumer an additional $14,000 service as evidenced by the additional contract below.

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

As proof of payment, Elliott provided documentation that showed he made two payments via PayPal and an additional payment via a bank transfer. In total he claims he paid $2,000 towards the credit repair services before he asked for a refund. The records provided show he paid $1,120 through PayPal. At the time of publication I have emailed Elliott to explain in the comments section below why the records show he paid $1,120 through PayPal when he claims he paid $1,400.

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

The payments Elliott made, according to the PayPal information, were directed to a company called Debt Solutions Unlimited which is run by Dennis Daniels and Donna Daniels. In 2010 Debt Solutions Unlimited changed their name to Shielded Circle. – Source. Shielded Circle is a company I’ve written about before as well, click here.

What appears odd in all of this is that Lang Smith doesn’t put his name or company name on anything and money is headed in all sorts of directions and through different companies. Just look at all the names we have here. On the Credit Mastery Challenge post, Smith identified himself as L Smith Enterprise, and on these documents it looks like money was directed towards ECR Solutions and Ultimate Debt Solutions, Debt Solutions Unlimited, and Shielded Circle.

It’s also interesting to note the agreements for service are not signed by the provider nor identify the provider.

So Who are the Players Here?

Lang Smith identifies himself as the CEO of Credit Mastery Challenge. – Source. He says his website is CreditMasteryChallenge.com.

CreditMasteryChallenge.com says the administrative contact for the domain is [email protected] although the rest of the registration information is hidden.

ECR Solutions appears to be Extreme Credit Restoration Solutions, a company that Smith is associated with as well.

A search of Florida corporate records, where the company claims to be located, could not locate any active corporation by that name in Florida nor any company called L Smith Enterprise. Lang Smith is not an officer with any company called ECR Solutions.

Lang Smith is the person responsible for Credit Mastery Challenge, LLC which is located at the same address as ECR Solutions. 4720 Salisbury Road, Jacksonville, FL 32256.

The Credit Mastery Challenge was formed on 3-22-2010 and according to the most recent company filing he is the responsible party. – Source

Lang Smith is also the responsible person for a another corporation at the same location, Deal Fax. – Source

ECR Solutions says it is the copyright holder of the Deal Fax website. – Source

A further search for ECR Solutions took me to a press release. That press release said the website for ECR Solutions was www.extremecreditrestoration.com and that domain actually takes you to the CreditMasteryChallenge.com website. The release also listed a second site, www.miccreditrepair.com, and that domain also leads to Lang Smith’s company Credit Mastery Challenge website.

In that release Lang Smith is quoted as saying:

Lang said, “I had to come up with a way to break into this market with an honest service that for once, actually did what they are getting paid to do and that is to repair your credit completely, not just 60%. Since 98% of all credit repair companies are scams I figured people would have to start paying attention to the guy offering to pay you $10,000 if he failed to do the job. I owe all my knowledge to my partner really who was a former Equifax insider for 18 years. He taught me everything I know now and I’m very grateful. If it wasn’t for him signing on to my company when I first built this, I would have never been able to make the guarantee that I make still today.”

Lang also went on to say, “I’m the original creator of the $10,000 guarantee. Sure, a lot of people have tried to copy my claim but it will just end up hurting them in the future when they have to pay that money out.” – Source

I could not help but notice the address associated with this press release was Saint Simons, Georgia 31522, which is coincidently the same location as the bank Lang Smith instructed this reader to send his wire transfer.

In fact this interesting website ties the Georgia connection all together. – Source

Reader Wants a Refund From Lang Smith Who He Paid Advance Fees to For Credit Repair. No Refund Received.

The Reader Tried to Get His Refund and Was Promised One by Lang Smith

The reader attempted to get the refund he was promised by Lang Smith. Despite the promises of a refund he got this after posting his complaint online.

> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Lang Smith wrote to Elliott:
>
>> This is an official notice by email letting you know that your actions have promoted my attorney team to take legal action against you and all your assets. I am hereby informing you that you will receive a written notice to remove all postings and slander off the internet that have to do with my name or my company name.
>>
>> You are going to receive written notice to your home explaining the details of this requirement.
>>
>> If in fact you decide not to comply within the time frame the letter is demanding my legal team will follow up with a hefty lawsuit against you. Next, we will take your signed application that we have where you state that you agree there are no refunds and we will present it in court to get a court order to have your posts removed.
>>
>> That’s just the start. We will then file a counter lawsuit against you for slander to start with. Once that’s done I will make sure you receive hefty fines or jail time if you attempt to place your false accusations back on the internet again.
>>
>> This is[n't] my first rodeo. I hope you know what your getting yourself into. Your life is about to really change for the worst.
>>
>>I suggest you hire an attorney for this. You’re going to need it.
>>
>> -Lang


On May 14, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Elliott wrote to Lang Smith:

FYI

Under the Credit Repair Organizations Act, credit repair companies cannot require you to pay until they have completed the credit repair services they promised.


On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Lang Smith wrote again to Elliott:

> Do you really think I would still be in business if I didn’t have a legal way around that?
>
> Plus credit has nothing to do with this. All I need is a court order and search engines will shut down your links.
>
> I hope you got more than that. Ha.
>
> Here’s a freebie since it has nothing to do with your case…
>
> Read the entire FCRA. There are exceptions.
>
> Sorry kid you’re not getting out of this by reading a few things on the net.
>
> Get your 9-5 wallet out.
>
> See you in Florida court. Hope you show up.
>
> FYI…it will take more than a few blog links to make a dent in my company.
>
> Every company has complaints. A company that has no complaints people tend to trust less.
>
> You’ve done me a favor.
>
> In fact, I should be thanking you really. So far I’ve had a $23,000 increase in sales since your post mainly because people want to prove you wrong. They are using my service out of pure curiosity. Awesome!
>
> Good luck.
>

The sales representative, Peter Cruz, who sold the program to Elliott, sent me an email backing up Elliott’s story.

Peter Cruz says he was a sales representative for the credit repair program and along with Lang Smith and Elliott he was part of a conference call in which Peter states Lang Smith said he would refund Elliott’s money in 3 to 5 days.

Will There Be a Refund?

I’m hopeful Elliott will receive a prompt refund.

Lang, it would be awesome to make this a good news story and post a comment below with information showing your cordial refund was sent and as a bonus, that you still stand behind your $10,000 guarantee.

I contacted Lang Smith by email yesterday and said:

I am currently working on a story regarding your credit repair and CPN services after receiving communications from a reader, Elliott [redacted], who says he paid you $2,000 in advance for the removal of negative items on his credit reports. I have communications from both Elliott [redacted] and his sales representative Peter Cruz that say you promised him a refund but have yet to deliver the refund.

[Elliott] has forwarded me emails where you appear to be very agitated with [Elliott] and it appears you do not intend to issue the promised refund.

I would like to your side of the story to be included in the piece which will publish tomorrow morning. It would be positive if the story ended with [Elliott] receiving the refund he and Mr. Cruz claim you said was forthcoming.

As of the time of publication I have not received any response.

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  • stacy

    Debt Solutions/shielded circle took $8000 from me and did NOTHING! Ended up inbankruptcy becausev I entered their pprogram and took their terrible advise. I wad stupid to believe what they promised. Too good to be true.

  • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

    Just discovered that a consumer started a site called Lang Smith Credit Repair Scam.

  • Steve Rhode

    I agree, Jay was making too big of the deal his IP address might say Denver. You’d think since he’s so in love with Lang that he’d tell Lang this issue is ongoing and Lang would want to come and make this a good news story and show people exceptional customer service to build trust for other people considering his service.

    Instead, Jay comes in, leaves a legacy of nasty comments that only erode confidence of anyone considering Lang’s service.

    Odd. Very, very odd.

  • Er1919

    On last statement Jay/Lang….If Lang never got payment, why would he agree to refund me my money on a conference call with his sales associate !?!!?!? LOL !! Oh I have the sales associate on speed dial and if you can read, I have a statement from him in this article…Would you refund someone whom you never received anything from ??? CASE CLOSED….

  • Steve Rhode

    Actually, all it is proof of is that the consumer says Lang directed him to do a wire transfer to Lang’s bank account and was directed to send the balance to that address because Lang did not supposedly have a PayPal account to use for the PayPal payment.

    I already explained the roll of the site image. Please pay attention.

    Lang’s own salesperson says he was a party to a conversation with Lang and the consumer that the refund was coming promised and coming. The sales person also says the consumer was directed to make payments to the PayPal address shown.

    Do you have some specific knowledge that the claims of the salesperson and the consumer are not true or factual? If so, other than your opinion, what’s your point?

    I’ve let you state your position, you’ve stated it, you’ve made the statement you are not Lang so what you have to say on this matter is irrelevant from this point forward.

  • Jay

    That’s proof the payment wasn’t made to Lang and
    Credit Mastery Challenge! This posting is about Credit Mastery Challenge
    ripping off Elliot! Not Debt Solutions Unlimited  refusing to give a refund like it should be, the receipt clearly
    states he made his payment to Debt Solutions Unlimited. What more do you need?
    It wasn’t Lang’s account on the documentation he provided Elliot is lying clearly. You really expect
    someone to reply to your e-mail Steve ? What planet do you live one?
    And if they do them what?? Will u take down this crap ???

    Nice to know I can send a payment via paypal to whoever , turn around and post
    a receipt on this site and say I paid another company and they wont refund me ?

    And you will come to the rescues and post comments about them slandering their
    name.Real reliable site you have here.

    The documents Elliot provided prove nothing  
    1. He made up a fake site with a Lexington
    law banner on a template.. tell me again what does that prove???
    2. He made a payment to Debt Solutions Unlimited not Credit Mastery Challenge??
    So why is this posting on here

     

    Get your Facts straight Steve ! Debt Solutions Unlimited is who you need to pursue..

     

    Jay

    Denver CO

  • Er1919

    Jay, no one will stick up for a scammer but a scammer. IP addresses can be changed VERY easily, you’re not talking to a rookie.

    I wonder why Lang didn’t respond and still haven’t responded to Steve in regards to the post, yet Jay is sticking up for him like his wife, are you his wife Jay?

    I’m sure Jay from Denver has plenty of proof to dispell these “Scammer” rumors that he can share with Steve, since Lang is the real deal, right Jay?

    In this world of business Jay contracts are leagal binding agreements and Lang didn’t honor either one. Did Lang honor your contract Jay? Since you’re so enamored with Lang, help clear his name of these allegations and show this contract you signed with Lang and the receipt of payment you sent him….If you really love Lang, you would do this….

    Lang asked for payment to the designated PayPal in which the receipt is shown. If Lang never got payment in the first place why sue me? Why issue a CPN ? Why not say something to defend yourself? But yet again Jay isn’t Lang and Lang isn’t Jay…I think Lang smartened up from the last time he posted on this blog WITH TWO DIFFERENT NAMES !!

    Jay, Inform Lang that I’m coming for him in court and Lang, If no one loves you, Jay does

  • Steve Rhode

    Did you bother to read the article about why the payment wound up being directed there?

    If your point is that you love Lang, that’s noted. If you have nothing to provide this consumer to get the refund Lang promised him then why do you keep posting?

  • Jay

    I don’t care about Elliott’s refund!  I’m here to say 1 retard’s so called experience , doesn’t make the them a bad company .

    Elliot I am not Lang this is another lie you are makeing up in your head.
    I am from Denver CO ask Steve . He can see my ip address

    And Steve a little to take to look into the payment issue???? If your going to post stuff and proclaime to be a expert read the documents!!!

    I don’t know know why you care? Oh now i remember to make money on some ones name.Real Nobel .. Your no expert you make a living on riding on other peoples names…

    This is one loser! Its the nature of the business,People who who have unrealistic expectation’s and want a miracle while they watch tv….

    Lang has helped 100′s of people no complaints I am one of the many satisfied customer’s.

    This is one kid  who makes things up in his head,

    Jay
    Denver Co

  • Steve Rhode

    ER1919, this would be a good time for you to restate why you made the payments to that particular paypal account to help Jay to clearly understand the chain of events.

  • Er1919

    Jay/Lang is pathetic. It’s not even about the money anymore, I won’t stop until the industry and the authorities know about devious ways….

  • Steve Rhode
  • Steve Rhode

    The issue is Lang already promised the consumer a refund and his sales representative confirms this. So where is the promised refund?

  • Jay

    Steve & Damon I’m not her to get involved in refunds and who owes who money. I am her to state my positive experience with Credit Mastery Challenge. And if you had a clue how credit worked you would understand that seasoned trade-lines do work, but not in 30 days Like Elliot expected. It took 90 days to see a positive impact, and several months to reduce my debt. The fact of the matter no matter is now matter how good your services are there are always people with unrealistic expectations who you cant make happy ,because they want miracles while they do nothing. And there are always people who want to ride on the coat tales of other company’s to promote their name.  This is one guy out of hundred of thousands of people Lang has helped. Check the receipt of payment from Debt Solutions Unlimited posted on here its not to Lang’s company. There is always one person who you cant please in this industry and sites like this looking to promote their affiliates on other peoples name.

  • Jay

    Steve & Damon I’m not her to get involved in refunds and who owes who money. I am her to state my positive experience with Credit Mastery Challenge. And if you had a clue how credit worked you would understand that seasoned trade-lines do work, but not in 30 days Like Elliot expected. It took 90 days to see a positive impact, and several months to reduce my debt. The fact of the matter no matter is now matter how good your services are there are always people with unrealistic expectations who you cant make happy ,because they want miracles while they do nothing. And there are always people who want to ride on the coat tales of other company’s to promote their name.  This is one guy out of hundred of thousands of people Lang has helped. Check the receipt of payment from Debt Solutions Unlimited posted on here its not to Lang’s company. There is always one person who you cant please in this industry and sites like this looking to promote their affiliates on other peoples name.

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      The issue is Lang already promised the consumer a refund and his sales representative confirms this. So where is the promised refund?

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode
      • Er1919

        Jay/Lang is pathetic. It’s not even about the money anymore, I won’t stop until the industry and the authorities know about devious ways….

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        ER1919, this would be a good time for you to restate why you made the payments to that particular paypal account to help Jay to clearly understand the chain of events.

      • Jay

        I don’t care about Elliott’s refund!  I’m here to say 1 retard’s so called experience , doesn’t make the them a bad company .

        Elliot I am not Lang this is another lie you are makeing up in your head.
        I am from Denver CO ask Steve . He can see my ip address

        And Steve a little to take to look into the payment issue???? If your going to post stuff and proclaime to be a expert read the documents!!!

        I don’t know know why you care? Oh now i remember to make money on some ones name.Real Nobel .. Your no expert you make a living on riding on other peoples names…

        This is one loser! Its the nature of the business,People who who have unrealistic expectation’s and want a miracle while they watch tv….

        Lang has helped 100′s of people no complaints I am one of the many satisfied customer’s.

        This is one kid  who makes things up in his head,

        Jay
        Denver Co 

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Did you bother to read the article about why the payment wound up being directed there?

        If your point is that you love Lang, that’s noted. If you have nothing to provide this consumer to get the refund Lang promised him then why do you keep posting?

      • Er1919

        Jay, no one will stick up for a scammer but a scammer. IP addresses can be changed VERY easily, you’re not talking to a rookie.

        I wonder why Lang didn’t respond and still haven’t responded to Steve in regards to the post, yet Jay is sticking up for him like his wife, are you his wife Jay?

        I’m sure Jay from Denver has plenty of proof to dispell these “Scammer” rumors that he can share with Steve, since Lang is the real deal, right Jay?

        In this world of business Jay contracts are leagal binding agreements and Lang didn’t honor either one. Did Lang honor your contract Jay? Since you’re so enamored with Lang, help clear his name of these allegations and show this contract you signed with Lang and the receipt of payment you sent him….If you really love Lang, you would do this….

        Lang asked for payment to the designated PayPal in which the receipt is shown. If Lang never got payment in the first place why sue me? Why issue a CPN ? Why not say something to defend yourself? But yet again Jay isn’t Lang and Lang isn’t Jay…I think Lang smartened up from the last time he posted on this blog WITH TWO DIFFERENT NAMES !!

        Jay, Inform Lang that I’m coming for him in court and Lang, If no one loves you, Jay does  

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        I agree, Jay was making too big of the deal his IP address might say Denver. You’d think since he’s so in love with Lang that he’d tell Lang this issue is ongoing and Lang would want to come and make this a good news story and show people exceptional customer service to build trust for other people considering his service.

        Instead, Jay comes in, leaves a legacy of nasty comments that only erode confidence of anyone considering Lang’s service.

        Odd. Very, very odd.

      • Jay

        That’s proof the payment wasn’t made to Lang and
        Credit Mastery Challenge! This posting is about Credit Mastery Challenge
        ripping off Elliot! Not Debt Solutions Unlimited  refusing to give a refund like it should be, the receipt clearly
        states he made his payment to Debt Solutions Unlimited. What more do you need?
        It wasn’t Lang’s account on the documentation he provided Elliot is lying clearly. You really expect
        someone to reply to your e-mail Steve ? What planet do you live one?
        And if they do them what?? Will u take down this crap ???

        Nice to know I can send a payment via paypal to whoever , turn around and post
        a receipt on this site and say I paid another company and they wont refund me ?

        And you will come to the rescues and post comments about them slandering their
        name.Real reliable site you have here.

        The documents Elliot provided prove nothing  
        1. He made up a fake site with a Lexington
        law banner on a template.. tell me again what does that prove???
        2. He made a payment to Debt Solutions Unlimited not Credit Mastery Challenge??
        So why is this posting on here

         

        Get your Facts straight Steve ! Debt Solutions Unlimited is who you need to pursue..

         

        Jay

        Denver CO

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Actually, all it is proof of is that the consumer says Lang directed him to do a wire transfer to Lang’s bank account and was directed to send the balance to that address because Lang did not supposedly have a PayPal account to use for the PayPal payment.

        I already explained the roll of the site image. Please pay attention.

        Lang’s own salesperson says he was a party to a conversation with Lang and the consumer that the refund was coming promised and coming. The sales person also says the consumer was directed to make payments to the PayPal address shown.

        Do you have some specific knowledge that the claims of the salesperson and the consumer are not true or factual? If so, other than your opinion, what’s your point?

        I’ve let you state your position, you’ve stated it, you’ve made the statement you are not Lang so what you have to say on this matter is irrelevant from this point forward.

      • Er1919

        On last statement Jay/Lang….If Lang never got payment, why would he agree to refund me my money on a conference call with his sales associate !?!!?!? LOL !! Oh I have the sales associate on speed dial and if you can read, I have a statement from him in this article…Would you refund someone whom you never received anything from ??? CASE CLOSED….

      • Jim Douglas

        Hey there. I have to agree with you in that Lang promises and doesn’t deliver. I signed up for his debt elimination program when I needed help with my credit cards and he took the money and now won’t return my emails or calls. I got a judgment against me and that was the trigger for the refund, no other stipulations in the contract. Well, I got one and had to find a way to pay them all offer after other attorneys came after me (READ: borrowed from relatives to get out of my hot water). I’m interested in filing a complaint with the FTC against him and ECR and would be interested to know if you’d care to join me in doing so. I’m also looking into getting a class action lawsuit for breach of contract and fraud going.

      • Er1919
  • Jay

    Steve & Damon I’m not her to get involved in refunds and who owes who money. I am her to state my positive experience with Credit Mastery Challenge. And if you had a clue how credit worked you would understand that seasoned trade-lines do work, but not in 30 days Like Elliot expected. It took 90 days to see a positive impact, and several months to reduce my debt. The fact of the matter no matter is now matter how good your services are there are always people with unrealistic expectations who you cant make happy ,because they want miracles while they do nothing. And there are always people who want to ride on the coat tales of other company’s to promote their name.  This is one guy out of hundred of thousands of people Lang has helped. Check the receipt of payment from Debt Solutions Unlimited posted on here its not to Lang’s company. There is always one person who you cant please in this industry and sites like this looking to promote their affiliates on other peoples name.

  • Damon Day

    Lang must not be familiar with the phrase, it is better to close your mouth and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

    His email makes it very clear that he doesn’t have the slightest clue how the legal system works.  He steals peoples money and then tries to scare them into not telling anybody.  What a straight up scam.

    He is going to file a counter suit to his own lawsuit? That is a crack shot legal team you got there Lang.

    Lang Smith and his Credit Mastery whatever is a total scam.  If I am wrong, then please cut a check to Eliott for 10,000 dollars Mr. “Original 10,000 dollar guarantee guy”

    Heck, just give him the 2,000 back and that would at least show something.

    Lang actually thinks a consumer is going to read the email he wrote to Elliott and say, wow, I really want to give Lang Smith 2,000 dollars to, so I can see if I get treated like this?

    “Genius Clark”

  • Steve Rhode

    The website was obviously a mockup, just follow the source link for the URL to see where the mockup came from. The only resource the site provides in the story is a link between the email address and physical address. I am not an affiliate of Lexington Law.

    Where in the contract does it say it is between Debt Solutions Unlimited.

    Did you talk to Lang about providing the refund to ER1919?

  • Jay

    The copy of the website provided on this post is a fake.. Its a template with a Lexington law banner on top and ecr’s contact
    information by contact information I mean their address. Below lang’s
    e-mail address its say’s  YOUR COMPANY ADDRESS WILL COME HERE. Wow Steve
    you allow this??? I guess when your in it for the affiliate commission you don’t care??

    P.S and the documents clearly say its between Elliot and Debt Solutions Unlimited. Debt Solutions Unlimited is not Lang’s company. So slander their name. 

    Jay

    Denver CO

  • Jay

    The copy of the website provided on this post is a fake.. Its a template with a Lexington law banner on top and ecr’s contact
    information by contact information I mean their address. Below lang’s
    e-mail address its say’s  YOUR COMPANY ADDRESS WILL COME HERE. Wow Steve
    you allow this??? I guess when your in it for the affiliate commission you don’t care??

    P.S and the documents clearly say its between Elliot and Debt Solutions Unlimited. Debt Solutions Unlimited is not Lang’s company. So slander their name. 

    Jay

    Denver CO

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      The website was obviously a mockup, just follow the source link for the URL to see where the mockup came from. The only resource the site provides in the story is a link between the email address and physical address. I am not an affiliate of Lexington Law.

      Where in the contract does it say it is between Debt Solutions Unlimited.

      Did you talk to Lang about providing the refund to ER1919?

      • http://DamonDay.com Damon Day

        Lang must not be familiar with the phrase, it is better to close your mouth and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

        His email makes it very clear that he doesn’t have the slightest clue how the legal system works.  He steals peoples money and then tries to scare them into not telling anybody.  What a straight up scam.

        He is going to file a counter suit to his own lawsuit? That is a crack shot legal team you got there Lang.

        Lang Smith and his Credit Mastery whatever is a total scam.  If I am wrong, then please cut a check to Eliott for 10,000 dollars Mr. “Original 10,000 dollar guarantee guy”

        Heck, just give him the 2,000 back and that would at least show something.

        Lang actually thinks a consumer is going to read the email he wrote to Elliott and say, wow, I really want to give Lang Smith 2,000 dollars to, so I can see if I get treated like this?

        “Genius Clark”

      • Jay

        Steve & Damon I’m not her to get involved in refunds and who owes who money. I am her to state my positive experience with Credit Mastery Challenge. And if you had a clue how credit worked you would understand that seasoned trade-lines do work, but not in 30 days Like Elliot expected. It took 90 days to see a positive impact, and several months to reduce my debt. The fact of the matter no matter is now matter how good your services are there are always people with unrealistic expectations who you cant make happy ,because they want miracles while they do nothing. And there are always people who want to ride on the coat tales of other company’s to promote their name.  This is one guy out of hundred of thousands of people Lang has helped. Check the receipt of payment from Debt Solutions Unlimited posted on here its not to Lang’s company. There is always one person who you cant please in this industry and sites like this looking to promote their affiliates on other peoples name.

  • Er1919

    Hello, Just to let you guys know, Lang went M.I.A since the publishing of this article, I was told he’s still promoting this business I have yet to receive a refund at this time, please spread the word. His threat of legal action was also a bluff in hopes of me not going after him

  • Er1919

    Hello, Just to let you guys know, Lang went M.I.A since the publishing of this article, I was told he’s still promoting this business I have yet to receive a refund at this time, please spread the word. His threat of legal action was also a bluff in hopes of me not going after him

  • allison

    What a joke this Lang tool is. His email responses (taunts) can really undo him here. BTW he can only threaten civil, not criminal, actions for libel (not “slander”).  I think I would file a case complaint with the FTC on this one.

  • allison

     What a joke this Lang tool is. His email responses (taunts) can really undo him here. BTW he can only threaten civil, not criminal, actions for libel (not “slander”).  I think I would file a case complaint with the FTC on this one.

  • Er1919

    Thanks Steve, I wish it didn’t have too come to this but I hate being led on especially by someone who came off as a good guy. I sent $300 to the sales rep via PayPal to get the work started and then was told to send the rest to the email Lang provided. I also proof of the $300 sent. I don’t want this to become a national story or end up in front of a judge, I just want my refund as promised and go about my day.

    I’ll let you know if Lang complies.

  • Er1919

    Thanks Steve, I wish it didn’t have too come to this but I hate being led on especially by someone who came off as a good guy. I sent $300 to the sales rep via PayPal to get the work started and then was told to send the rest to the email Lang provided. I also proof of the $300 sent. I don’t want this to become a national story or end up in front of a judge, I just want my refund as promised and go about my day.

    I’ll let you know if Lang complies.

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