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Idaho Now Issues Mass Joinder / Tort Litigation Warning About Corvus Law Group

With more and more states now taking action to protect consumers from bogus marketing of mass joinder and tort litigation suits against their mortgage company, now Idaho has jumped in the pool. The Idaho Attorney General says:

A company called Corvus Law Group is mailing ads to Idaho homeowners inviting them to join scam lawsuits against their mortgage lenders, Attorney General Lawrence Wasden warned today. The ads look like government forms and claim homeowners can get large principal reductions or other monetary relief if they join the lawsuit.

“The scam is a pretext to collect an unlawful $5,000 upfront fee from homeowners,” Attorney General Wasden said. “The representations in the solicitations are false and are designed to prey on vulnerable homeowners. My office is currently investigating this company.”

The ads, which appear to be “notices,” may be mailed to homeowners or posted on their doors. Typically, the business asks for a “retainer fee” and may ask homeowners for their credit card numbers or offer to set up a weekly payment plan.

State and federal laws prohibit companies from charging upfront fees for foreclosure rescue or mortgage modification services. Beginning September 1, it is unlawful for a person to charge a fee, upfront or otherwise, for these services, unless the person offering the service is licensed with the Idaho Department of Finance or exempt from its licensing requirement.

“I encourage homeowners who have lost money to this business or other mortgage rescue companies to file complaints with my Consumer Protection Division,” Wasden said. Complaint forms are available here or by calling (208) 334–2424. – Source

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  • http://twitter.com/CorvusLaw Corvus Law Group

    Corvus Law Group lawsuit filed 11/9/11 in the state of Idaho, U.S. District Court, District of Idaho. Case No. 1:11-cv-00549-EJL.

    Clients are represented by the reputable Marcus Mumford.

    Case filed against BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.; COUNTRYWIDE FINANCIAL CORPORATION; BAC HOME LOANS SERVICING; COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS, INC., AND RECONTRUST COMPANY, N.A.; MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS, INC.

    We have been rather disappointed that we were catagorized alongside those who were legitimate scam agencies, such as Kramer and Kaslow, who were never even affiliated with attorneys. We are in the process of working on a resolution with the Idaho Attorney General’s office, who have specified their issue was with the format of a mailer we sent to notify potential candidates that they qualified for a future case, rather than the legitimacy of our services. This has been rectified. They made their claims without performing an investigation, or even attempting to contact us, and now they’re actually performing the research and we are ensuring full compliance on our end. The BBB has also confirmed that we have never had a complaint lodged against us. More importantly, we have no claims filed with the State Bar. Being that we have great working relationships with the attorneys general in other states in which cases have been filed, some of them also sponsoring cases against lenders, we have full confidence that this issue will soon be resolved.

    We are soon to be filing our Case against Bank of America and Countrywide in the state of Washington, in addition to national campaigns against Chase and CitiBank.

    We have received no contact attempts from any media agencies to verify any claims or investigate our firm or case histories.

    If you would like, I would be happy to provide a copy of our current mailer, which is in full compliance.

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      Absolutely, send the new mailer in and I’ll publish it for all to see. You can upload it to me here.

    • A Washintonian

      You (Corvus, Ryan, et al) have been in the “process of working on a resolution with the Attorney General’s office” for MANY months now.   You also told me you were going to sue them for slander.   Looks like you didn’t, for some reason.  And they fully stand behind their statement about you.    Pudd(proof)ing.

  • http://twitter.com/CorvusLaw Corvus Law Group

    Corvus Law Group lawsuit filed 11/9/11 in the state of Idaho, U.S. District Court, District of Idaho. Case No. 1:11-cv-00549-EJL.

    Clients are represented by the reputable Marcus Mumford.

    Case filed against BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.; COUNTRYWIDE FINANCIAL CORPORATION; BAC HOME LOANS SERVICING; COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS, INC., AND RECONTRUST COMPANY, N.A.; MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS, INC.

    We have been rather disappointed that we were catagorized alongside those who were legitimate scam agencies, such as Kramer and Kaslow, who were never even affiliated with attorneys. We are in the process of working on a resolution with the Idaho Attorney General’s office, who have specified their issue was with the format of a mailer we sent to notify potential candidates that they qualified for a future case, rather than the legitimacy of our services. This has been rectified. They made their claims without performing an investigation, or even attempting to contact us, and now they’re actually performing the research and we are ensuring full compliance on our end. The BBB has also confirmed that we have never had a complaint lodged against us. More importantly, we have no claims filed with the State Bar. Being that we have great working relationships with the attorneys general in other states in which cases have been filed, some of them also sponsoring cases against lenders, we have full confidence that this issue will soon be resolved.

    We are soon to be filing our Case against Bank of America and Countrywide in the state of Washington, in addition to national campaigns against Chase and CitiBank.

    We have received no contact attempts from any media agencies to verify any claims or investigate our firm or case histories.

    If you would like, I would be happy to provide a copy of our current mailer, which is in full compliance.

  • Idaho Resident Mike

    I’m doing reserach for a third party about Corvus.
    I’ve checked with Better Business Bureau and their have been no complaints filed against Corvus. I called the Attorney General’s Office, and there are ZERO active/open complaints filed by Consumers.

    • AlCapone

      As a “Researcher” you may have noted their start date with the BBB… BBB file opened: September 22, 2011

      Great job Mike

  • observer

    I am an attorney, it’s the weekend, and I found this discussion interesting.  Very interesting.  I have a question for Mr Rhodes.   Are you buckled in? 

    Proof?  Who are you to accuse someone then demand proof?  Are you a judge?
    I notice a couple of times you were asked for proof and you side stepped.

    Mr Rhodes, we live in a country where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty.  What if these people can show up in court with cases in hand?  What do you have in hand to defend yourself?  This “the AG said” won’t wash in court.  Every judge knows of cases where an AG is guilty of corruption or political wrangling.  But you have accused Corvus of being a scam, deceptive marketing, and taking advantage of vulnerable homeowners, in your own words.

    I am not sure about this Corvus outfit, but you need to read up a little on what’s going on in the country.
    You want case numbers?  Start with Ronald et al VS Bank of America.  And here is some more case (and quotes)  from

    litigationallianceforum.com

    “You’re not talking about improperly stapling together
    two documents, you’re talking about systematic fraud in the system,” Neil
    Barofsky, the former special inspector general for the U.S. Treasury’s
    Troubled Asset Relief Program, said in an interview.

     

     

     

    Thousands of Americans are
    challenging the validity of their mortgage note as well as the security behind
    that note in state and federal courts.  Currently over 1200 (growing
    daily) are engaged in mass joinder law suit against their banks.  The
    springboard for these law suits is the extensive work and case precedence
    established in Ronald et al V. Bank of America suit.  BC Case # 401444

     

     

    B of A / Country
    Wide:     Case# 302011004500819  – CU-MT-CXC
    Citibank:     Case # BC452265
    Chase:     Case # BC452262
    Wells Fargo/Wachovia:     Case # BC 452264
    GMAC:     Case # BC452263
    Indymac / One West:     Case # BC452266

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      Odd comment you left but here goes.

      Who has asked me for proof?

      I’ve now repeatedly clearly stated this article is a press release issued by the Idaho Attorney General. In fact the only person I see here using the word, “proof” is you.

      Who did I accuse?

      I never accused Corvus of being a scam. The Attorney General of Idaho is the one who is attributed with saying “The scam is a pretext to collect an unlawful $5,000 upfront fee from homeowners,” Attorney General Wasden said. “The representations in the solicitations are false and are designed to prey on vulnerable homeowners. My office is currently investigating this company.”

      The Ronald v. Bank of America case in an interesting one. In fact I wrote an article that included a mention to that just today. See California Attorney General Responds Against Mitchell Stein Suit in Mass Joinder Action.

      If you are going to take issue with my reporting of what the ID AG said, are you also going to take issue with KTVB, KMVT, Idaho BBB, and the original release?

      • observer

        You walked right into the swamp, Mr. Rhodes.  Honestly, are you buckled in? 

        Yes, I am challenging these Ideeeho newspapers and the BBB. 

        You are going to site the BBB for credibility?   You and ALL of your readers should check out this video.  And you should write a statement to ALL of them on how you throw around BBB findings as the gospel.

        http://youtu.be/Yo8kfV9kONw

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        A total misdirection on your part.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Curious why you are publishing under two different names, ipowerpilot and observer. Is there a reason for pretending you are more than one person?

      • Ujkop

        I guess he gave up.  Maybe he sent $5000 and now has second thoughts.

    • Ujkop

      litigationallianceforum.com ain’t nothing more than another “Corvus Law” type group that is also trying to get $$$$$ out of home owners in mass joinder litigation that I am yet to see a successful case on. 
      Corvus Law….no thank you…take your so called law suit to others that are more vulerable.  Better yet…..show us a successful case of yours….or is it all just BS

  • Ipowerpilot

    Dear Mr Rhode scholar:  You keep saying “What statements did I make about Corvus? I”m just going by what the Idaho AG said”. Yet here are some of the commentsYOU made in your responses: (copy and pasted from YOUR posts):

    “It’s the false and deceptive marketing”

    “Well I actually got my hands on the Corvus Law Group Form CLG 0127 bogus
    mailer and it has very similar claims on it as those that the Attorney
    General of California sued the law firms over”.

    “Are you upset with the article, which is the press release from the Idaho AG, here. That is an absolute fact.”

    California?  Those people were sued for offering cash damages from the bank and getting loans removed completely.   Can you point out on YOUR copy of this mailer where is says that?  

    AGs are politicians.  Corvus seems to be suing banks.  You act like you have never heard of a politician with an agenda. 

    You are a pimp, Rhodes.  I hope that “Corvus Advocate” is a Corvus Lawyer and I hope he has his
    sights on your dumb ass.  You are sooooo deserving. 

    • UJKOP

      I guess my main concern is that I am yet to see a track record for Corvus.  I hear this and hear that. 
      Corvus will talk about what banks did.
      Corvus will talk about what other states are doing.
      Corvus will talk about how everyone needs to get signed on to this to fight the bank.

      My Grandma would say, “talk is cheap”

      So put it on the line Corvus and show folks what you’ve done to get people to send you $5G
      So put it on the line Corvus and tell folks exactly when is this law suit going to be filed.
      So put it on the line Corvus and gives us actual cases that will prove you are as great as you say you are….remember “Talk is Cheap.”

      When I did custom car painting……I would put my craftmanship on the line….I’d show the cars I painted and the work I did.  So when someone comes to me they know what they will get.

      So far Corvus the only thing that you let anyone know is that they will be out $5000

      Prove yourself Corvus…..DO YOU GET THAT????   PROVE YOURSELF!

      • Ipowerpilot

        Uhuh, Ujkop…..talk IS cheap…..you just proved it. 

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      I never said Corvus was false and deceptive. I said the California Attorney General action was directed towards companies that were engaged in false and deceptive advertising.

      I stand behind my use of the word bogus. It pretends to be something it is not.

      That’s actually not what the CA suit was about. You might want to read the actual suit and examine the issues on marketing and capping.

      • Richie

        I have been talking with Corvus for a week or two now. just trying to do my do diligence before I give them any money. so far they have answered all of the questions I come up with send me info I ask for and have even offered to let a family member who is an attorney talk to one of their attorneys before I sign up. I asked for court cases and numbers, they sent me a big list of them today. All of them i have looked at so far have been dismissed but that is propably what it should look like if the bank negotiated..right?

        Still havent made up my mind but there has to be something I can do. Banks just are not helping homeowners they have just been giving me the run around and WA attorney generals office tells me to start over with the making homes affordable program which seems to be just a joke.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        What specific service or assistance are you looking for from a law firm? It’s hard to respond unless I better understand if you are looking for modification help or you want to enter a suit against your lender.

      • Ipowerpilot

        There you go pimping again, Rhode scholar.   You never said they was false and deceptive? 

        This is a direct quote from YOUR words above: 

        “It’s the false and deceptive marketing”        08/30/2011 03:48 PMBogus?   Could you say what it pretends to be?  And while you are at it, tell me with all your wisdom, what this law firm actually does and how they do it…..here’s a hint: it sounds like a lawsuit and a modification is NOT a lawsuit.  Did you see the way the AG kept referring to laws that govern people who do modifications and charge modification upfront fees. He seems to be as confused about the real issue here as are you…..and you both thinkyou are God’s gift to justice or something.   You don’t think the CA lawsuit was about outrageous promises?   Have you read the case? 

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Yes, I was referring to the claims of the CA AG suit.

        It pretends to be an official notice.

        The AG is a she, not a he.

        The AG said the suit is about:

        1. False advertising, in violation of section 17500 of the Business and Professions Code

        2. Unfair, fraudulent and unlawful business practices, in violation of section 17200 of the Business and Professions Code

        3. Unlawful running and capping, in violation of section 6152, subdivision (a) of the Business and Professions Code (i.e., a lawyer unlawfully paying a non-lawyer to solicit or procure business)

        4. Improper fee splitting (defendants unlawfully splitting legal fees with non-attorneys)

        5. Failing to register with the Department of Justice as a telephonic seller.

        You can read the entire AG release on the suit, here.

        The California Bar release can be found here.

      • Ipowerpilot

        When I said he, I was talking about the ID AG……..you were reffeirng to his release.

        So I read your release by the CA AG – Miss Harris.    Here’s a direct quote of what she said:

        “Defendants deceptively led homeowners to believe that by joining these
        lawsuits, they would stop pending foreclosures, reduce their loan
        balances or interest rates, obtain money damages,
        and even receive title
        to their homes free and clear of their existing mortgage”.

        Can you show me on your “bogus” mailer where they promise to stop foreclosures, obtain money damages, and even get the homeowner their homes free and clear, please ?

         
        Or are you are just saying “well that CA thing is a scam, so every thing that looks like it is a scam”

        Do a google search on “CA lawyer mortgage scam”  you will find over 9 million entries….most attorneys who are offering to sue banks for homeowners.  Are they all frauds, too?  Why isn’t the CA AG shutting them down, too? 

        This just shows you shouldn’t be talking about things you are not even reading.  You are pathetic, Rhode scholar, you will regurgitate any garbage that comes along and not even try to verify what you are saying.

        By the way, how much are those online attorneys paying you to advertise on your site?  Are they really attorneys?

        How are sales going with that other advertising on your site?  Is it the more garbage controversy you can create the better your advertising sells?  Like I said you are a pimp.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Let’s get the right responses with the right issues. Bogus mailer is tied to what the Idaho AG said in their release when they identified the mailer I attached specially by calling it “A company called Corvus Law Group is mailing ads to Idaho homeowners inviting them to join scam lawsuits against their mortgage lenders, Attorney General Lawrence Wasden warned today.

        The representations in the solicitations are false and are designed to prey on vulnerable homeowners. My office is currently investigating this company.

        The ads, which appear to be “notices,” may be mailed to homeowners or posted on their doors.”

        I reported on what the Idaho Attorney General said. Bring me the public statement of an Attorney General that says something different or contradicts that and I’ll be happy to publish that also. But I have not seen such a statement yet, have you?

      • Ipowerpilot

        Invalid search:
        Invalid domain extension.

        this is what I get when I go to godaddy and do a search on your domain bx.businessweek.com………..interesting

      • UJKOP

        Everyone just keeps saying the same old thing….”he said, she said, you said, they said, I said…”

        It seems to me it is so easy to solve this…
        1. Have Corvus supply us with case numbers they have filed and completed.
        2. Have Corvus tell us the date that this multi law suit is going to be filed.
        3. and most importantly…have Corvus get this thing started so they can save all these people tens of thousands of dollars and more like they are stating so Corvus can then come back and say, “see we told you so.”

        So many keep talking about the marketing techneques….I would prefer to see the END RESULTS.  I wish Corvus would start this thing so we can all see the END RESULTS.  They haven’t yet filed so if this so great…..FILE!!!!   Just think of all the customers that will be signing on to Corvus next law suit if they win this one. 

        File this suit and let’s get RESULTS.  Until then people are hesitant about forking over $5000 for what’s behind door number 1, 2 or 3.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        That seems like easy information to provide. Seemingly a reasonable request.

  • Corvus Advocate

    Mr Rhode,

    Be careful who and what you accuse, especially without having all the facts.  You are dealing with a high powered law firm that has the ability to successfully sue you for slander, and defamation of character, and even issue a cease and desist and/or restraining order on you so fast it will make your head spin, and your reputation falter.  Corvus is apart of the solution, not the problem.  Get your facts straight before its too late.  

    Corvus Advocate

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      Rather than bluster, how about you deal with the facts.

      Are you upset with the article, which is the press release from the Idaho AG, here. That is an absolute fact.

      Has Corvus filed suit against the Idaho AG for it’s statement, if so, please let me know what the case number is and I’ll happily cover that as well.

      As far as it appears, I’ve made no specific statements about Corvus other than the mailer, which I published copies of, that you can see factually.

      So which facts all you claiming I don’t have?

    • bringit

      Sorry Mr. Corvus salesman, don’t want to cut into your commisions…………….. if it smells like s— and taste like sh– I’m thinking it is a duck.

  • Guest

    I’m no genius, but I don’t think there are any guarantees in a lawsuit.  Not sure what they could promise you other than that they’ll represent you and sue the bank on your behalf.

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      The issues of deception and fee splitting were never about the lawsuit. It’s about the marketing.

      • Corvus Advocate

        And what qualifies you to render such an opinion without first having knowledge of what State Bar Marketing requirements are?  Tell us that, Mr. Rhode?  Whether or not their mailers constitute deception is a matter or personal opinion, which should be purported as such.  Corvus Law Group’s mailers strictly comply with all Idaho and Washington State Bar requirements.  You’re  not an attorney, so how should we have expected you to know this.  Get the facts right. 

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Speaking of getting the facts right. Let’s back this bus up. The article comes straight from the Idaho AG office. It’s their press release.

        What statements did I make about Corvus?

      • Clalw6455

        Must be why the AG has posted a warning about Corvus Law……………. WTF?   Corvus advocate???

  • Guest

    I’ve heard of this Corvus Law Group.  Some pretty good reviews too.  Seems a little strange that the Attorney General would be warning consumers about a law firm.  Sure, some lawyers are greedy, but they do offer legitimate services.

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      It’s not the underlying law the warnings about. It’s the false and deceptive marketing. There has not been a case go to trial.

      • Harlow

        Actually, they’ve had over 200 successful cases/settlements. They also don’t do mortgage mods or foreclosure defense.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        The AG had an issue with the mailer. Do you have a copy of it to show that it was not deceptive as alleged.

        Can you post a link for me for the “successful cases” you mentioned?

      • Slimjim123

        I saw a copy delivered to a neighbors, it looked like a government mailer. funny thing when you call you end up taliking to a sellsman not an attorney. For 5K you then can talk to an attorney. hmmmmmm

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Well I actually got my hands on the Corvus Law Group Form CLG 0127 bogus mailer and it has very similar claims on it as those that the Attorney General of California sued the law firms over. See attached.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        While this statement is not specifically about the CLG 0127 mailer it is about a mailer which is substantially similar and is from the California case I’m reading through now involving similar mailers.

        “State Bar investigator Thomas Layton, a fraud expert, discusses at length why the Mailers utilized by Stein and the others, especially Form 1012-R, are false, deceptive, and tend to confuse and deceive the public. Among the problems with the Mailers: they give the impression settlement was imminent and that it was a a final notice; they are made to look like an official government notice; they tell the recipients they are a potential plaintiff in a national lawsuit; and they frequently outlined specific settlement goals.”

      • Ujkop

        I’ve talked with the folks at Corvus and was informed that they have won close to 400 settlements and lost 2.  I asked for case numbers, since they are all public information,so I can do my homework before giving them $5000; but they would not share that information.  To me that means RED FLAGS.  They have paperwork you have to sign that says they promise you nothing; and that you have to pay $5000 for this.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        Let me know if you get any case numbers. I’d be happy to check into some.

      • Harlow

        Look up their attorneys. Ryan West and Marcus Mumford are listed on their website. Justia had a number of cases for both. They’re supported by the Utah AG. I’ve enrolled in their WA Multi Plaintiff lawsuit, and obviously did my due diligence before taking the word of the ID AG or their legal assistants. I spoke with Ryan West during my consultation, and I think there is enough evidence of other cases being successful, even just in settling, and other states are filing suits themselves. I’m not hung up on the silly mailer you posted, I’ve received worse from law firms suing Verizon, but rather the opportunity to sue my bank for unethical practices, and taking advantage of the market. I work for a title company, so I am very concerned about having clouded title, should I ever attempt to sell my house, not to mention the inflated value at which I purchased my home.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        How much did you pay to join the suit?

      • Deb

        In Idaho?

      • steven

        Thats right!! There based in Idaho but have not helped anyone in this state!

    • Jimbo

      Just curious………………………………………….Are you eployed by Corvus Law Group?

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