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Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam? – Jake

“Dear Steve,

Have a mortgage with a 6% intrest… Starting to have some financial issues..

I was contacted through the mail by the SC Law Group from Long Beach, CA. They say they can put together a package to present to Chase our mortgage lender that will make them reduce our mortgage rate to 3.25% based on our financial hardship. We are not behind yet in our mortgage but each month it gets tougher… They do not guarantee this rate will be accepted, but they feel the presentation they will give me should work. They are not present for any negotiating with the bank in my behalf, and they want $2000 for putting my paperwork together – Does this sound like a scam?

Jake”

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The Answer

Dear Jake,

What I do know is that SC Law Group says it is comprised of attorneys Paul Nguyen, Yolanda Torres, Joseph Haytas, Damon Newman, Carlos Amor, and Jason Khano.

Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam?   Jake

The domain name sc-lawgroup.com was only registered on October 5, 2011 for just one year. That does not demonstrate any longevity to me. The domain ownership is hidden so you have no idea who even owns the website.

On the same web server are the following sites:

  • allstatelawfirm.com
  • aslawgroup.com
  • aslawgroup.net
  • home-loan-modifications.us
  • legalprocessingteam.com
  • novation-lawcenter.com
  • novationlawcenter.com
  • novationlawcenter.net
  • novationlc.com
  • rm-hollanderlaw.com
  • sc-lawgroup.com
  • sc-lg.com
  • time2settle.net
  • unionlawcenter.com

It seems like a very strong coincidence that the majority of sites on the same server are similar in nature.

The SC Law Group does not appear to list their company registration or physical address. Another red flag for me.

According to State of California records, SC Law Group was registered to do business on October 4, 2011 and the registered agent is Paul C. Nguyen. The business address is listed as 2081 Business Center Drive, Suite 100, Irvine, California 92612

The State Bar of California lists Paul Cong Nguyen at:

SC LAW GROUP APLC
2081 Business Ctr Dr
Ste 100
Irvine, CA 92612

Phone Number: (714) 432-6521
Fax Number: (714) 908-7763
e-mail: [email protected]Source

Another firm, NHT Law Group, also lists Paul Cong Nguyen as part of that law firm. That firm is located at 575 Anton Blvd, Suite 300, Costa Mesa, CA 92626. This address appears to be a virtual office space. – Source

Both Yolanda Torres and Joseph Haytas are listed as of counsel attorneys with that firm as well. – Source

NHT Law Group is the subject of a lawsuit filed by Guaranteed Rate, Inc. on January 6, 2012.

Guaranteed Rate is a correspondent lender and claims that:

At some point in December 2011, various clients of GRI received the notices in the mail marked “Personal and Confidential” (see notices attached as Exhibit A), which included a warning stating “$2,000 Fine or 5 Yrs. Imprisonment Or Both for Any Person Who Interferes With Or Obstructs Delivery of This Letter Or Otherwise Violates – 18 United state Code 1702 Et Seq”, which apparently was meant to lend some seriousness to the information contained in the notice.

The notice contained the following false, misleading and otherwise defamatory statements:

a) Why are you getting this notice? Court records indicate that a recent lawsuit has been filed against Guaranteed Rate Inc, with claims of Foreclosure Fraud, Mortgage Misrepresentation, and Unfair Business Practices. Due to the serious nature of this matter we ask that you respond promptly.

b) What happens if you don’t respond by January 7th: You may be eligible for representation in a case against Guaranteed Rate Inc, don’t delay as only a specific group of people may qualify.

The notices also included a “Summary of Proposed Changes Based On Eligibility” which details a completely fictitious calculation of the borrower’s new payment based upon information which NHT and the marketing company have obtained from an unknown source.

Charles Bachtell, General Counsel for GRI, was able to contact Paul Nguyen of NHT, who stated, in substance, that he was unaware that such notices were being sent by the marketing company and stated that no further notices would be sent. A complete detailing of the communications between GRI and NHT are contained in an affidavit signed by Mr. Bachtell, which is attached as Exhibit B. The relevant emails between Mr. Bachtell and Mr. Nguyen are contained in Exhibit C.

Mr. Nguyen refused to provide the list of all individuals who had received the notices and refused to provide the name of the marketing company which sent out the notices.
- Source

The notice in question is below. It is very similar to another similar notice called Form 1012-R that was the subject of a crack down by the State of California.

Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam?   Jake

As you can see by the email below, Nguyen said no further mailings would take place. – Source

Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam?   Jake

According to the State of California, NHT Law Group is still an active company.

As I mentioned before, one of the other websites on the same server is All State Law Group, aslawgroup.com. As you can see below the website is extremely similar and they happen to both be located on the same street. All State Law Group, which at least lists their street address, says it is located at 2102 Business Ctr. Dr. Set 130, Irvine CA 92612.

Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam?   Jake

Based on everything I’ve presented I would feel more comfortable if you got a second opinion from a real estate attorney licensed in your state and talked to a HUD Housing Counselor, for free, before you made the leap to spend $2,000 on the offer presented.

You may eventually decide to go with SC Law Group after checking your options with others and SC Law Group should not hesitate to support your obtaining a second legal opinion about your situation.

I’d be very interested in seeing the mailer they sent you. If anyone has one, please send it to [email protected]

Please post your responses and follow-up messages to me on this in the comments section below.

Big Hug!

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Update 4-11-2012 – Yolanda Torres and Paul Nguyen Threaten This Site

We received the following letter from Yolanda Torres at ytorreslaw.com which seems very strange because Yolanda Torres is listed on the SC Law Group website as a lawyer with that firm. – Source

While the letter apparently says the accusations made in the lawsuit are untrue, it does not point to anything reported in the story which is not false.

As I told Mr. Nguyen in this story in the comments, he should feel free to update the story as the case between NHT Law and the Plaintiffs proceeds. Should Mr. Nguyen be exonerated as the letter claims, this site will gladly report on that as well.

The letter even goes on to attack and insult me, “Through our research, we have uncovered that many people have claimed that you are a fraud.” Interestingly they never state the facts to support that.

Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam?   Jake

Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam?   Jake

Does SC Law Group Sound Like a Scam?   Jake

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  • Wasted money

    DO NOT HIRE SCLAW GROUP for assistance in securing a mortgage modification. I hired SCLaw Group in March of 2012, it is now in November NO MODIFICATION they DO NOT deliver at all. The staff turn over is high and in my case I’ve had three case managers which they don’t contact you weekly as agreed in their agreement. The only thing they do is just fax your bank with your information that you provide them. I was charge one thousand and nine hundred dollars for a service that they don’t provide. They don’t have any influence with the banks in which you have a mortgage with. It’s my opinion it was money wasted which I didn’t have anyway. You will loose your home if you put your home in their hands. You will end up doing all the work by faxing SCLaw Group the information that the bank request and they will fax it to them. So why bother and do the work yourself. AGAIN, if you have money to waste hire SCLaw Group! I plan to make a formal complaint with the BBB and any other website that is associate with filing a complaint.

    • Janet Patino

      What’s the website? S.C. Law group stole $2,400 from me!! & now I’m left with no home!! Need desperate help

      • N WHITE

        DID THE SAME WITH ME. SO SORRY; I UNDERSTAND COURT ORDERED THEM TO SHUT DOWN IN JUNE; HAD A DOZEN AFFILIATE NAMES TOO. IT IS SUCH A SHAME THAT SCUM BAGS LIKE THIS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DESPERATE HOMEOWNERS AND WE HAVE NO RECOURSE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ALL IN JAIL FOR THIS

  • N WHITE

    AVOID SC-LAW GROUP AT ALL COSTS  – I USED THEM TO TRY AND GET A LOAN MOD.  ALL THEY DID FOR ME WAS TAKE MY MONEY.  MY MORTGAGE COMPANY DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM THEM EXCEPT A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION.  THE TRUSTEE ATTORNEY HAD NOT GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM THEM (PHONE CALL, EMAIL, CORRESPONDENCE).  EVERYTIME I WOULD INQUIRE ABOUT SOMETHING, THEY TOLD ME SOMEONE WOULD CALL ME BACK BUT NEVER DID.  FINALLY, TWO DAYS BEFORE MY FORECLOSURE SALE, SOMEONE CALLED AND ASKED WHAT WERE WE GOING TO DO BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT STOP THE SALE.  ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 

  • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

    Another law firm sued over mailer. See http://getoutofdebt.org/37703/the-resolution-law-group-sued-over-claims-in-mailer-by-first-mariner-bank

    • Asdf

      Truth is a defense a defamation cause of action.

  • KarenJ

    Go to the Chase website and there is a link there which will take you to info on getting a modification.  My husband and I have a Chase mortgage and although we didn’t meet the qualifications for a modification, we were able to get a streamlined refi at 5.25 (this was about 18 months ago, may be less now).  Took about a month and we were good to go.  You do not need anyone to help you with this.  Go straight through the bank.

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