I Signed Up With Money Management International and Now I Have Bad Credit. – Anna

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“Dear Steve,

About six months ago I signed up for Money Management Internationals Debt Management Program. I pay about a thousand dollars a month and my debt will be paid off in 30 months. I recently saw my credit report and found that because of MMI there have been 12 late payments on my report since I signed up with them back in January.

Prior to my contract with them I only had one late payment. My fiance and I have been looking into buying our first home. Obviously, I am not going to be approved for a loan for a long time now. I spoke with a mortgage broker and he suggested that I seek legal advice against MMI, they have ruined my credit. My credit score is now in the 400′s which means it dropped well over 100 points.

What suggestions do you have for me?

Thank you so much for your time and advice,

Anna”


The Answer:

 

Dear Anna,

While I can’t speak specifically about your situation, there are plenty of reasons why this can happen. Most of it surrounds timing issues and creditor inefficiency.

Often times people will run to a debt management program at the last minute when they feel they might not be able to keep current on this months payments. The process of enrolling in a debt management program can take a few days or weeks depending on the efficiency of the credit counseling company and the timeliness of statements, account information and first payment from the client.

Then when you enter a debt management program and the first payment is not received by the anticipated due date your creditors may indicate that payment is past due. Most creditors will reage, or show your account as being current, once you have made three consecutive on-time payments. I suspect the late payments you have observed are from more than one creditor.

Another problem that occurs is that creditors are quick to take the payment but sometimes slow to update their systems to reflect you are in a credit counseling program. This can cause timing and reaging issues as well at times.

I don’t think this process of getting started and the late payments is what may hold you back from getting a loan in the near future. I suspect that you went into a credit counseling program because you were feeling financial pressure. in that case, your credit scores were damaged to begin with. By your own admission it is now in the 400 range and if it dropped as you said by 100 points, you went into the program in the 500 range. A score that is still below prime.

I think the best course of action at this point is to pay off the debt that you owe as quickly as you can. Once these accounts are satisfied and you have money for a down payment and you’ve rebuilt your financial life from where it is, I am confident you will qualify for a mortgage.

The irony here is that you’d probably get a house faster if you went bankrupt. I know, that sounds crazy, but follow along.

Right now your credit score is already in the toilet. Bankruptcy is not going to drive it down much further. In the 400 range there isn’t much further to fall anyway. If your debt was discharged you could spend the next 30 months rebuilding your credit and saving money for a down payment. If you stay in the credit counseling program you’ll make 30 months of payment and start saving for a down payment.

The choice is yours but rather than have a bunch of pent up anger over MMI, I’d suggest that you instead go and talk to a local bankruptcy attorney and learn the facts about bankruptcy. If you discover that bankruptcy makes more sense in your situation then you can just put this MMI issue aside and move on.

Give me an update in the comments section if you have any additional questions about this or to give me an update.

Big Hug!

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  • Eccolibri60

    When I signed up with MMI, they told me what day of the month the money would be withdrawn, and said the payments would go to the card companies within a week. I called the one card for whom the due date was too early, and they were able to move my due date to fit my payment schedule. I have been with them for almost 3 years on a 5 year plan, my debt is going down and my credit rating is going up. It is definitely worth the $40 a month fee.

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      So glad to hear you got great service and had a good experience. Your feedback is welcome.

  • Steve Rhode

    Can you give me a bit more information?

    Are you able to save money at the same time and dig your way out of debt?

  • Bookingclerk

    I am making my payments is it better to struggle a little and pay off the loans myself than to use a credit counseling service will my credit rating go up faster

  • Bookingclerk

    I am making my payments is it better to struggle a little and pay off the loans myself than to use a credit counseling service will my credit rating go up faster

    • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

      Can you give me a bit more information?

      Are you able to save money at the same time and dig your way out of debt?

      • Khodges2

        Do you know anything about making partial payments… We sent a payment of $500 in the beginning of the month and 2 weeks later the remaining balance of $368 which would be a total of $868. Chase sent a letter stating that they haven’t received even the partial payment for November at all. I am furious as I have no idea what MMI is doing with the money sent to them partially. I don’t agree 100% with their practices and suspect them of holding the payments until they get the full portion so they can pay themselves. Meanwhile this looks totally worse as if I made no payment at all. Hopefully you can give a little insight.

      • http://GetOutOfDebt.org Steve Rhode

        I would suspect they will pay some of your creditors with the partial payment but let’s not guess, my suggestion is that you give them a call.

  • Jody

    Dear Kim,
    Too bad that MMI does not send an easy cheatsheet soon as a person calls them and is considered. This could cut down the complaints people have against your company.
    Perhaps in big print like this:
    “SAVE THIS PAPER AND PUT ON REFRIGERATOR UNTIL YOU MEMORIZE
    #1. Arrange with MMI a due date taken out of your bank account that is 3 weeks before your creditors due date. Maybe slip your MMI date at an earlier time and ask your creditor to make your statement 2 weeks later.
    #2. Ask your counselor if you can you close the debtors account immediately once agreement made with MMI? Get the forecast date of when you can do this and CLOSE IT YOURSELF. This way your credit report will say “closed by consumer”, not “closed by MMI”
    #3. Prepare to not purchase a car and do not open any lines of credit for the term of your agreement with MMI
    #4. Do check your creditors online to make sure postings are done. In the first 3-4 months, it is ok to contact on phone with the debtors to make sure everything is clear regarding the due date and postings with MMI. In the first month, if there is a shortage, pay it with your creditor. Sometimes in the first month you might experience this.

  • http://blog.moneymanagement.org Kim McGrigg

    Hi Anna,

    I am the community manager for MMI; I have worked with MMI for more than 14 years. I totally understand the need to research the role a Debt Management Plan (DMP) plays in your credit reports. While I do not know the details of your specific situation, I will try to address your concerns.

    Creditors are solely responsible for reporting to a credit bureau and each creditor maintains their own policies on what information is reported. Some creditors may update their report to a credit bureau on “past due” accounts to a “current” status after receiving our proposal letter, after your first deposit, or after your third successful deposit. That being said, your credit report is a statement of your payment history. Anytime you do not pay an account as originally agreed, there is a possibility that a creditor may place a derogatory note on your credit report. Since your DMP likely involves reduced payments or waiving of interest, some creditors may report your account as being paid through a credit counseling agency.

    While I do not know the full details of your situation, there may be some solutions to this issue that a counselor can help you identify (such as confirming acceptance or coordinating the creditor due date with your disbursement date). Therefore, I highly recommend that you call and speak with a support counselor about your specific situation—their job is to help.

    I want to let you know that in addition to offering credit and budgeting counseling, MMI also is a HUD-certified housing counseling agency.

    I am not an attorney, so I cannot comment about whether or not you should file for bankruptcy. If you do choose to go down that route, we are approved to deliver the necessary bankruptcy counseling and education sessions.

    Anna, I sincerely wish you the best of luck. And Steve, thanks for the opportunity to comment.

    Kim McGrigg
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