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Legal Helpers Debt Resolution Makes Odd BBB Claim and Says Bankruptcy is Better Than Debt Settlement

By on November 2, 2010
Legal Helpers Debt Resolution Makes Odd BBB Claim and Says Bankruptcy is Better Than Debt Settlement

A tipster (send in your tips here) sent me an email and pointed out the following prominently placed statement on the Legal Helpers Debt Resolution website (lhdrhelp.com):

CREDIBLE
Legal Helpers Debt Resolution is a true national law firm with offices in 50 states. They have a favorable rating with the BBB and all attorneys are licensed with their state bar association. – Source (Site Archive)

Seems innocent enough but here is the odd part. The message says Legal Helpers Debt Resolution has a favorable rating with the BBB, but if you click on the link they give for the text it takes you to a BBB page that refers you here.

This BBB page gives Legal Helpers an F rating. – Source

The reason the BBB gives for this rating is not because the company is in the debt settlement business, but because:

BBB Rating for Legal Helpers, P.C.

Based on BBB files, Legal Helpers, P.C. has a BBB Rating of F on a scale from A+ to F.

Reasons for this rating include:

  • 131 complaints filed against business
  • 5 serious complaints filed against business.

Of the 131 complaints stated, 91 have been recorded in the last 24 months. – Source

The curious part for me is the front page statement given to consumers that Legal Helpers Debt Resolution has a favorable rating with the BBB but with a little digging that statement is just blatantly not true and the BBB actually gives the company an unfavorable rating.

For me this isn’t as simple as a misstatement or an inadvertent slip. Is it possible the company is stating prominently they have a favorable rating with the BBB to make potential consumers feel more comfortable in deciding upon their services? Otherwise what else is the reason for a front page statement “They have a favorable rating with the BBB…”, when they actually don’t.

Another Legal Helpers site, legalhelpers.com, has a BBB shield on the site but if you click on that it takes visitors to a BBB page that is not the primary BBB page and does not show the true rating or complaint history for Legal helpers. – Source. It takes visitors to a BBB page in Roseville, Minnesota with limited information, no rating and no complaint history. – Source. Is this another casual oversight or a pattern to misdirect consumers? If it is not intentional, it’s pretty damn sloppy for a national law firm.

In another odd move I found this Legal Helpers television commercial that says people should NOT enroll in debt settlement.

The advertisement says:

Actor Says: “Isn’t it better to use one of those bill consolidation or debt settlement companies I see on TV?”

Legal Helpers Says: “The truth is, No. 75% of those programs actually fail, Leaving you with a very poor credit score and most of your bills.”

But here is what Legal Helpers now says. It seems like debt settlement is now the way to go.

While I’m at it, the lhdrhelp.com site also lists the following affiliated attorneys.

Auten, Eric 900 W 5th Ave, Suite 600, Anchorage, AK 99501
Dionne, Melinda 9217 Old Greensboro Road, Tuscaloosa, AL 35405
Carmichael, Brian 300 Water Street Suite 208 Montgomery, AL 36104
Westerfield, Steve 229 Woodbine, Hot Springs, AR 71901
Wilson, Brian 400 West Capitol Ave Suite 1700 Little Rock, AR 72201
Gustafson, Richard 4300 Long Beach Blvd., Ste. 420, Long Beach, CA 90807
Hilton, Alex 6803 Avonvdale Drive Oklahoma City, OK 73116
Gerard, Adam 7700 Irvine Center Drive, Suite 800 Irvine, CA 92618
Searns, Jason 6377 W Prentice Ave, Littleton, CO 80123
Vuckovich, Joseph
Carucci, Matthew 1216 N. King St., Wilmington, DE 19801
Gatto, Karen 2901 W Busch Blvd, Suite 201, Tampa, FL 33618
Sauls, Berk 225 Peachtree St. SW, South Tower Suite 1625, Atlanta, GA 30303
Tang, Christopher 225 Peachtree St. SW, South Tower Suite 1625, Atlanta, GA 30303
Dunn, Greg 841 Bishop St, Suite 2221, Honolulu, HI 96813
Haas, JD 8151 33rd South Suite 208 Bloomington, MN 55425
Ranill, William 480 Washington Ave. N, Ste. 204, Ketchum, ID 83340
Ranill, William 480 Washington Ave. N, Ste. 204, Ketchum, ID 83340
Hermosillo, Angela 3234 N Jones Place, Boise, ID 83704-4078
Allen, Jason 233 S. Wacker Dr, Suite 5150, Chicago, IL 60606
Blust, Jason 233 S. Wacker Dr, Suite 5150, Chicago, IL 60606
Aleman, Jeffrey 233 S. Wacker Dr, Suite 5150, Chicago, IL 60606
Kasturi, Shobhana 136 E. Market St., Ste. 600, Indianapolis, IN 46204
Wellman, Keith 1125 Grand Blvd, #916, Kansas City, MO 64106
Head, Randall 616 South 5th St. Louisville, KY 40201
Bowman, Debbie 332 W. Broadway, #300, Heyburn Building, Louisille, KY 40202
Brown, Gary 400 Lafayette St, Suite 150, New Orleans, LA 70130
Wilson, Greta 3535 Canal Street, New Orleans, LA 70119
Kochhar, Sonia 75 Thomas Johnson Dr, Suite E, Frederick, MD 21702
Wall, Thomas 6301 Ivy Lane, Suite 700, Greenbelt, MD
Miller*, Jeremey 145 Main St., Thomaston, ME 04861
Kull, Andrew 86 Main Street, Suite 203, Auburn, ME 04210
Leigh, Lori 17117 W. Nine Mile Rd, Suite 1020, Southfield, MI 48075
Agosto, James 1970 Oakcrest Ave, Ste 210, Roseville, MN 55113
Paul, Sean 515 Olive St, Ste 702, St. Louis, MO 63101
Windsor, John 2906 North State St., Ste. 216, Jackson, MS 39296
Anderson, Mark 151 Thomas Street, Hamilton, MT 59840
Patten, Grant 108 Hay St., Suite 302, Fayetteville, NC 28301
Trader, Keith 501 40th St, S., Suite 201 S.W., Fargo, ND 58103
Barron, Frank 549 N. D Street, PO Box 2291 Fremont, NE 68026
McCaffrey, Brian 163 Water St, PO Box 616, Exeter, NH 03833
Nicely, Thomas 17 Academy St, Suite 615, Newark, NJ 07102
Banerji, Ronald 414 East Tenth Street, Alamogordo, NM 88310
Daniel, Tim 369 Montezuma Ave. #354, Santa Fe, NM 87501
Norris, Donald 1701 W Charleston Blvd, Suite 320, Las Vegas, NV 89102
Coen, Maria 420 Lexington Avenue, Suite 2132, New York, NY 10170
Yehl, Roger 136 Wilson Street PO Box 538 Salamanca, NY 14779
Hyslip, Jeffrey 40 W. 4th St., #525, Dayton, OH 45402
Brown, Ron 320 S Boston, Suite 1130. Tulsa, OK 74103
Karns, Joshua 6 Valley Rd. Middletown RI, 02842
Wolf, Amber 10260 SW Greenburg Rd, #415, Porland, OR 97223
Schottenfeld, Lee 111 S. Independence, #555, Philadelphia, PA 19106
Rojas, Ronald 1140 Third St., Beaver, PA 15009
Jacquard, Robert 231 Reservoir Ave, Providence, RI 02907
Cantrell, John PO Box 1276, Goose Creek, SC 29445
Sparra, Alex 1922 Green Park Ave Charleston, SC 29414
Hogan, Tim 317 6th Ave, Brookings, SD 57006
Moore, Dwight 5100 Stage Rd. Suite 4 Memphis TN 38134
Mechem, Everett 1101 East Stone Drive, #4, Kingsport, TN 37660
Sandy, David 731 litty Ct. #204, Memphis TN 38103
Fears, C. Bryan 4925 Greenville Ave., Ste. 715, Dallas, TX 75206
Myers, Oliver 265 East 100 South, #301, Salt Lake City, UT 84111
Nguyen, Luc 1192 Draper Pkwy., #244 Draper, UT 84020
Schwendiman, Jeremy 75 East 7200 South, Suite 149 Midvale, UT 84047
Conway, Martin 7926 Jones Branch Drive, Suite 930, McLean, VA 22102
Hoyle, Todd
Hylton, Sean 4860 Cox Road, Suite 200 Glen Allen, VA 23060
King, Tim 369 Montezuma Ave. #354, Santa Fe, NM 87501
Gacutan, Mona Lisa 600 Stewart St, #1224, Seattle, WA 98101
Murphy, William 611 N Broadway, #105, Milwaukee, WI 53202
Schaefer, Steven 425 S. Adams St. Suite 202 Green Bay, WI 54301
SRammell, Justin PO Box 901622 Sandy, UT 84090
Morgan, J.R. 103 N. Court St., Lewisburg, WV 24901
Ramell, Justin PO Box 901622 Sandy, UT 84090

Update 11-4-2010

A commenter below pointed out that Legal Helpers Debt Resolution has a second BBB record that as of today says B+. – Source

I want to be clear the path that led me to the F rating with the BBB was from the ldrhelp.com site and when you clicked on the text below the “credible” statement it took you to this page. Which then had a link for the BBB rating which took you here. – Source, Source

The now two different BBB sites in Chicago have different ratings but list the same business street address, use the same domain name for email contact (rkg@legalhelpers.com & jsh@legalhelpers.com), the Additional DBA name for each is the same as well, Macey & Aleman. Jeffrey Aleman is listed in both listings as a partner. Both listings use list the same fax number of 312-753-7797.

Since I wrote this article they have removed the link of the text on the Legal Helpers Debt Resolution site at lhdrhelp.com to the BBB report but they have not changed the text. It still says “They have a favorable rating with the BBB…” – Source


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102 Comments

  1. Steve Rhode

    June 2, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    After the last flurry of Tonesal5 nonsensical responses I’ve decided to block Tonesal5 from the comments.

    While I always welcome an elevated conversation about topics, after giving Tonesal5 a very wide latitude to bring some value via comments, Tonesal5 is not adding any value or content Tonesal5 has been able to back up with verifiable facts. Instead the comments have been without added value and merit.

    If Tonesal5 wishes to be reconsidered for commenting then I would first welcome a well sourced, factual and approved guest post of at least 1,000 words from Tonesal5 to lay out Tonesal5’s point of view so we can finally understand what in the world Tonesal5’s point might be.

    Tonesal5, you will need to submit the guest post with your real identity to be considered as a credible source.

  2. Steve Rhode

    June 2, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    After the last flurry of Tonesal5 nonsensical responses I’ve decided to block Tonesal5 from the comments.

    While I always welcome an elevated conversation about topics, after giving Tonesal5 a very wide latitude to bring some value via comments, Tonesal5 is not adding any value or content Tonesal5 has been able to back up with verifiable facts. Instead the comments have been without added value and merit.

    If Tonesal5 wishes to be reconsidered for commenting then I would first welcome a well sourced, factual and approved guest post of at least 1,000 words from Tonesal5 to lay out Tonesal5’s point of view so we can finally understand what in the world Tonesal5’s point might be.

    Tonesal5, you will need to submit the guest post with your real identity to be considered as a credible source.

  3. Steve Rhode

    June 2, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    After the last flurry of Tonesal5 nonsensical responses I’ve decided to block Tonesal5 from the comments.

    While I always welcome an elevated conversation about topics, after giving Tonesal5 a very wide latitude to bring some value via comments, Tonesal5 is not adding any value or content Tonesal5 has been able to back up with verifiable facts. Instead the comments have been without added value and merit.

    If Tonesal5 wishes to be reconsidered for commenting then I would first welcome a well sourced, factual and approved guest post of at least 1,000 words from Tonesal5 to lay out Tonesal5’s point of view so we can finally understand what in the world Tonesal5’s point might be.

    Tonesal5, you will need to submit the guest post with your real identity to be considered as a credible source.

  4. Steve Rhode

    June 2, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Has Tonesal5 become so annoying that I should ban it? I hate to ban a commenter but it seems Tonesal5 is a one trick pony with nothing either much factual or new to share. 

    As a community I’m interested in what you think about blocking Tonesal5 from further comments.

  5. Steve Rhode

    June 2, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    Has Tonesal5 become so annoying that I should ban it? I hate to ban a commenter but it seems Tonesal5 is a one trick pony with nothing either much factual or new to share. 

    As a community I’m interested in what you think about blocking Tonesal5 from further comments.

    • Steve Rhode

      June 2, 2011 at 11:03 pm

      After the last flurry of Tonesal5 nonsensical responses I’ve decided to block Tonesal5 from the comments.

      While I always welcome an elevated conversation about topics, after giving Tonesal5 a very wide latitude to bring some value via comments, Tonesal5 is not adding any value or content Tonesal5 has been able to back up with verifiable facts. Instead the comments have been without added value and merit.

      If Tonesal5 wishes to be reconsidered for commenting then I would first welcome a well sourced, factual and approved guest post of at least 1,000 words from Tonesal5 to lay out Tonesal5’s point of view so we can finally understand what in the world Tonesal5’s point might be.

      Tonesal5, you will need to submit the guest post with your real identity to be considered as a credible source.

  6. Tonesal5

    June 2, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Sorry Vinny I dont represent LHDR… I just speak about experience and you guys have a problem with that. Please let me know when I called Steve Gay

  7. Tonesal5

    June 2, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Sorry Vinny I dont represent LHDR… I just speak about experience and you guys have a problem with that. Please let me know when I called Steve Gay

    • Steve Rhode

      June 3, 2011 at 1:54 am

      After the last flurry of Tonesal5 nonsensical responses I’ve decided to block Tonesal5 from the comments.

      While I always welcome an elevated conversation about topics, after giving Tonesal5 a very wide latitude to bring some value via comments, Tonesal5 is not adding any value or content Tonesal5 has been able to back up with verifiable facts. Instead the comments have been without added value and merit.

      If Tonesal5 wishes to be reconsidered for commenting then I would first welcome a well sourced, factual and approved guest post of at least 1,000 words from Tonesal5 to lay out Tonesal5’s point of view so we can finally understand what in the world Tonesal5’s point might be.

      Tonesal5, you will need to submit the guest post with your real identity to be considered as a credible source.

  8. Tonesal5

    June 2, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    The lawsuit *alleges* that LHDR signs retainer agreements with consumers who believe they’re hiring a law firm to provide debt relief services on their behalf

    Clients are hiring a Law Office so theres nothing to defend… Sorry to burst your bubble but there’s nothing that they can do other then burn tax dollars trying to fight a company that represents themselves.How long can illinois drag a case on before they give up hmmmm

  9. VinnyTheGuinny

    June 1, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Really Anthony Salgado? Check with the State of CT. Youre so smart? CT sent the lawyers they had there complaints & those attorneys claimed they didnt do any work, just rented their names. They are no longer w/ lhdr. But you know it all, right?
    Tell you what Jerkoff, since you have no clue, lets ignore your crap. Until you tell the truth somewhere, why dont you go away? 
    BTW, thats really professional of you- representing a lawfirm and all by resorting to calling the website host gay? Im sure Macey approves of your stupidity. Keep it up Stu-nad

  10. Really

    June 1, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Defend THIS then:Government ActionsOn March 2, 2011, Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan announced a suit against Legal Helpers Debt Resolution, LLC (hereinafter LHDR), also known as the law firm of Macey, Aleman, Hyslip, & Searns, for violations of the Illinois Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act and the Illinois Debt Settlement Consumer Protection Act. The lawsuit alleges that LHDR signs retainer agreements with consumers who believe they’re hiring a law firm to provide debt relief services on their behalf. According to Madigan, LHDR actually contracts out virtually all debt relief services to a third party operated and staffed by non-lawyers. Madigan also purports that LHDR charges advance fees which are unfair and in violation of the advance fee ban in the Debt Settlement Consumer Protection Act. According to the lawsuit, participation in LHDR’s program does not produce the positive results that consumers expect at the time they enroll, and many consumers allege their financial situation has gotten worse after enrolling with LHDR.In addition, Madigan alleges LHDR failed to provide an individualized written financial analysis stating the debt settlement program is suitable for the consumer at the time the contract is signed, failed to clearly and conspicuously make all of the required pre-sale consumer disclosures and warnings, failed to provide consumers with a written contract with required disclosures, charged and received fees other than permitted, failed to provide a monthly accounting to consumers, failed to provide cancellation and refunds as required, and engaged in other prohibited practices.Madigan asks the Court to preliminarily and permanently enjoin LHDR from engaging in the deceptive and unfair practices alleged in the lawsuit, and that LHDR be enjoined from engaging in the business of advertising, offering for sale, and selling debt resolution services. Furthermore, Madigan requests the Court to find that all contracts entered into between LHDR and Illinois consumers by the use of methods and practices unlawfully are rescinded. Additionally, Madigan asks for restitution to consumers and civil penalties, as well as investigative costs paid to the State of Illinois.

  11. Tonesal5

    June 1, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    I’m sure someone else will substantiate it. And, time will tell…. DO YOU MEAN YOUR BF STEVE OR DAMON BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE ALL IN ON THIS WEBSITE

  12. Tonesal5

    June 1, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT FIND IT DOESNT MEAN THERE NOT THERE…

  13. Tonesal5

    June 1, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    STEVE YOU ARE A SHADY OLD MAN THAT PREYS ON PEOPLE’S PROBLEMS

  14. Tonesal5

    June 1, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    lol no way ummm you dont know how big lhdr is then…. its more then 20k

  15. Tonesal5

    June 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    LOL defend 136 complaints LOL thats pretty good or even outstanding because if you take the amount of client its less then 1% Steve do better research

  16. Steve Rhode

    March 2, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Legal Helpers Debt Resolution has just been sued by the Attorney General of Illinois. You can read the suit here.

  17. Steve Rhode

    March 3, 2011 at 1:30 am

    Legal Helpers Debt Resolution has just been sued by the Attorney General of Illinois. You can read the suit here.

  18. Steve Rhode

    February 28, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Sorry, missed your other comment.

    Who is Bernard?

    The site income is talked openly about in the site terms.

  19. ANTSAL

    February 28, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    ITS FUNNY YOU HAVENT RESPONDED… I BELIEVE I HIT THE BULLEYE. STEVE WE KNOW YOU RUN THIS FOR A PROFIT AND NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. YOU TRY TO CAP ON THE CLIENTS STRUGGLES TO MAKE A BUCK ALSO….. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE LOOKS INTO YOU TOO

  20. antsal

    February 24, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Steve Rhode Yesterday 04:25 PM in reply to ANTHONY_SALGADO34

    Who pays me to put their name on here?

    LOOK UP MOE BERNARD’S NAME AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY I BRING HIS NAME UP… THE SAME SCAM YOU RUN HERE IS THE SAME HE RAN 4 YEARS AGO DOING LOAN MODS. HE RAN A FORUM THAT TALKED BAD ABOUT LOAN MOD COMPANY’S , BANKS BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE BUILDS TRUST WITH THE THE PEOPLE THAT COMES ON TO HIS SITE AT THAT POINT HE POINTS THEM TO A COMPANY OR PERSON THAT HE TRUST OR KNOWS. THATS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM. YOU MIGHT NOT GET A KICK BACK EACH BUT WHAT I THINK YOU GET IS A FLAT FEE AND DONT TELL ME YOU SPEND HOURS AND HOURS ON THIS SITE FOR JUST A HOBBY OR FOR FUN BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE MONEY.

  21. Robert S

    February 24, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    There you go drawing conclusions again… Junior College or “State” University Education! I didn’t assume LHDR had 20,000 clients… I mentioned if a company (Like Freedom Debt Relief), has 20,000 clients and only 100-200 complaints, it isn’t has significant as its made on this blog.

    And YES. I agree up front fees are unfair. I got to give up with you… Emotional guy that’s all over the place with your posts :)

  22. ANTSAL

    February 24, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    YEA KIM I BET THEY TOLD YOU THAT…. I BET YOU WERE JUST LIKE THE REST WERE NOT ABLE TO SAVE ON YOUR OWN. WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY ARE GETTING A FREE SERVICE FOR 4 YEARS. YOUR CALL WAS RECORDED REQUEST THAT AND YOU WOULD THEN REMEMBER THAT THEY DID TELL YOU EVERYTHING UPFRONT AND THROUGH OUT THE WHOLE PROGRAM.

  23. Steve Rhode

    February 24, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Serious about?

  24. ANTSAL

    February 24, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    PAY TO PLAY WITH THE BBB… IF YOU DONT YOU WILL DROP RATINGS FAST

  25. ANTSAL

    February 24, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS STEVE… YEA YOU DO THIS BECAUSE YOU LOVE IT. IVE WORKED FOR MOE BERNARD LOOK THAT NAME UP AND TELL ME HOW HE GOT HIS BUSINESS FOR LOAN MODS!!!

  26. ANTSAL

    February 24, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    I just find it funny that you guys base the performance avg of these companys as what they get for the client….LHDR settles accounts at BOFA at 20% all days you add the % in and thats a huge saving’s… I bet if a reg. consumer tried they would be paying at 30% or at the full balance over years… They know what the companys can do because they see more settlements then we can ever dream of. I just wish the company’s would require a statement from each client after every settlement to show there is more good then bad. Please dont get me wrong there are companys that hold funds for client and settle there account for them but those are the bad people because they can tell you that they settled an account for 40% when it was 30% and pocket the diff. but LHDR does not hold there client funds its up to the client to have the sense to not touch there settlement funds but the ones that complain are the people that arent able to save on there own and get mad at the company for not being able to settle there accounts. The program they offer is great!!!! Tell me who has the time to sit on the phone and argue hours on end… noone does that why they need people like LHDR.

  27. antsal

    February 24, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    All calls….

  28. Steve Rhode

    February 23, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Excellent question. I am not aware of anyone that is recording those.

  29. Adjustedforinflation2.5cents

    February 23, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Recorded calls are fantastic during the discovery stage of litigation.

    Are the face to face’s recorded too? Just curious….

  30. Steve Rhode

    February 23, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    Who pays me to put their name on here?

  31. ANTHONY_SALGADO34

    February 23, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    STEVE YOU ARE ONE OF A KIND YOU SAY ALOT OF BAD THINGS ABOUT COMPANYS TO TRY AND SHOW YOU ARE ON THE CONSUMERS SIDE BUT THE SAD PART IS THAT YOU GET PAID FOR PEOPLE TO PUT THERE NAMES ON HERE. I KNOW THE WAY IT WORKS AND TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT LHDR HAS 9,000 JUST IN ONE BRANCH 20,000 IS FAR OFF MORE LIKE 200,000 PLUS… SO OF COURSE YOU GET A BAD RAP WITH YOU GET 130 COMPLAINTS…
    FOR THE PERSON THAT SAID THAT LHDR TOOK MONEY FOR HER ACCOUNTS I WOULD LOVE TO LISTEN TO THAT INTIAL CALL. I KNOW FOR A FACT ALL CALLS ARE RECORDED SO ALL LHDR CLIENTS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING IN TO… WHY NOT HAVE A SITE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE GOOD AND NOT JUST THE BAD

  32. ANTHONY_SALGADO34

    February 23, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    STEVE YOU ARE ONE OF A KIND YOU SAY ALOT OF BAD THINGS ABOUT COMPANYS TO TRY AND SHOW YOU ARE ON THE CONSUMERS SIDE BUT THE SAD PART IS THAT YOU GET PAID FOR PEOPLE TO PUT THERE NAMES ON HERE. I KNOW THE WAY IT WORKS AND TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT LHDR HAS 9,000 JUST IN ONE BRANCH 20,000 IS FAR OFF MORE LIKE 200,000 PLUS… SO OF COURSE YOU GET A BAD RAP WITH YOU GET 130 COMPLAINTS…
    FOR THE PERSON THAT SAID THAT LHDR TOOK MONEY FOR HER ACCOUNTS I WOULD LOVE TO LISTEN TO THAT INTIAL CALL. I KNOW FOR A FACT ALL CALLS ARE RECORDED SO ALL LHDR CLIENTS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING IN TO… WHY NOT HAVE A SITE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE GOOD AND NOT JUST THE BAD

    • Steve Rhode

      February 23, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      Who pays me to put their name on here?

      • ANTSAL

        February 24, 2011 at 6:59 pm

        LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS STEVE… YEA YOU DO THIS BECAUSE YOU LOVE IT. IVE WORKED FOR MOE BERNARD LOOK THAT NAME UP AND TELL ME HOW HE GOT HIS BUSINESS FOR LOAN MODS!!!

        • Steve Rhode

          February 24, 2011 at 7:02 pm

          Serious about?

          • antsal

            February 24, 2011 at 9:34 pm

            Steve Rhode Yesterday 04:25 PM in reply to ANTHONY_SALGADO34

            Who pays me to put their name on here?

            LOOK UP MOE BERNARD’S NAME AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY I BRING HIS NAME UP… THE SAME SCAM YOU RUN HERE IS THE SAME HE RAN 4 YEARS AGO DOING LOAN MODS. HE RAN A FORUM THAT TALKED BAD ABOUT LOAN MOD COMPANY’S , BANKS BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE BUILDS TRUST WITH THE THE PEOPLE THAT COMES ON TO HIS SITE AT THAT POINT HE POINTS THEM TO A COMPANY OR PERSON THAT HE TRUST OR KNOWS. THATS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM. YOU MIGHT NOT GET A KICK BACK EACH BUT WHAT I THINK YOU GET IS A FLAT FEE AND DONT TELL ME YOU SPEND HOURS AND HOURS ON THIS SITE FOR JUST A HOBBY OR FOR FUN BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE MONEY.

          • ANTSAL

            March 1, 2011 at 12:23 am

            ITS FUNNY YOU HAVENT RESPONDED… I BELIEVE I HIT THE BULLEYE. STEVE WE KNOW YOU RUN THIS FOR A PROFIT AND NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. YOU TRY TO CAP ON THE CLIENTS STRUGGLES TO MAKE A BUCK ALSO….. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE LOOKS INTO YOU TOO

          • Steve Rhode

            March 1, 2011 at 12:37 am

            Sorry, missed your other comment.

            Who is Bernard?

            The site income is talked openly about in the site terms.

    • Adjustedforinflation2.5cents

      February 23, 2011 at 9:31 pm

      Recorded calls are fantastic during the discovery stage of litigation.

      Are the face to face’s recorded too? Just curious….

      • Steve Rhode

        February 23, 2011 at 9:55 pm

        Excellent question. I am not aware of anyone that is recording those.

        • antsal

          February 24, 2011 at 6:42 pm

          All calls….

      • ANTSAL

        February 24, 2011 at 6:56 pm

        I just find it funny that you guys base the performance avg of these companys as what they get for the client….LHDR settles accounts at BOFA at 20% all days you add the % in and thats a huge saving’s… I bet if a reg. consumer tried they would be paying at 30% or at the full balance over years… They know what the companys can do because they see more settlements then we can ever dream of. I just wish the company’s would require a statement from each client after every settlement to show there is more good then bad. Please dont get me wrong there are companys that hold funds for client and settle there account for them but those are the bad people because they can tell you that they settled an account for 40% when it was 30% and pocket the diff. but LHDR does not hold there client funds its up to the client to have the sense to not touch there settlement funds but the ones that complain are the people that arent able to save on there own and get mad at the company for not being able to settle there accounts. The program they offer is great!!!! Tell me who has the time to sit on the phone and argue hours on end… noone does that why they need people like LHDR.

  33. ComplianceSlave

    December 30, 2010 at 1:20 pm

  34. Steve Rhode

    December 4, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    That’s interesting. Let me know anything else you get on this.

  35. Asenath

    December 4, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Steve:

    It is my understanding from internal sources that Vanderhoof is now an employee of Legal helpers Debt Resolution, and that his Credit Exchange is undergoing liquidation. LHDR basically bought all his intellectual property and client lists (leads, etc). Jeff Aleman and Thomas Macey are his partners. I wonder what Vanderhoof’s creditors are going to say about him basically sliding his company over to LHDR to avoid paying them?

  36. Steve Rhode

    December 4, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    If you read the comments on that CBS story linked here, there are some very interesting comments from people that say there were former employees and attorneys at Legal Helpers. Overall, very disparaging.

    What is the name of Vanderhoof’s new company that is affiliated with LHDR?

  37. Joe_debt_jr

    December 4, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    great legal helpers’ story just gets better and better, I rather follow this than Jersey Shores.

  38. Asenath

    December 4, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Legalhelpers Debt Resolution is a side company set up by Legalhelpers.

    Steve Vanderhoof, the former owner of The Credit Exchange (which is now in bankruptcy and has lost several large lawsuits), and the operator of Move My Net Worth, a multi-level marketing business (basically a pyramid scheme that is now in limbo) now has a partnership with Legal Helpers Debt Resolution. Clients will be signed up for debt relief services and then pushed into purchasing Steve’s “software” and then led into the pyramid scheme.

    Legalhelpers has a nationwide F rating with the BBB, and deceptively connects people to its Minnesota BBB office rating when they click on the BBB link in their website. That office in Minnesota has 1-2 attorneys in it: the HQ is in Chicago.

    CBS News Chicago recently did a story on Legalhelpers

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/20

    Do you really want to get involved with these guys on any level? I am thinking there is going to be an “American Greed” episode about Legalhelpers coming soon.

  39. Asenath

    December 4, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Legalhelpers Debt Resolution is a side company set up by Legalhelpers.

    Steve Vanderhoof, the former owner of The Credit Exchange (which is now in bankruptcy and has lost several large lawsuits), and the operator of Move My Net Worth, a multi-level marketing business (basically a pyramid scheme that is now in limbo) now has a partnership with Legal Helpers Debt Resolution. Clients will be signed up for debt relief services and then pushed into purchasing Steve’s “software” and then led into the pyramid scheme.

    Legalhelpers has a nationwide F rating with the BBB, and deceptively connects people to its Minnesota BBB office rating when they click on the BBB link in their website. That office in Minnesota has 1-2 attorneys in it: the HQ is in Chicago.

    CBS News Chicago recently did a story on Legalhelpers

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2010/10/20/law-firm-under-fire-for-mistakes-made-on-bankruptcy-petitions/

    Do you really want to get involved with these guys on any level? I am thinking there is going to be an “American Greed” episode about Legalhelpers coming soon.

    • Anonymous

      December 4, 2010 at 6:33 pm

      great legal helpers’ story just gets better and better, I rather follow this than Jersey Shores.

    • Steve Rhode

      December 4, 2010 at 8:00 pm

      If you read the comments on that CBS story linked here, there are some very interesting comments from people that say there were former employees and attorneys at Legal Helpers. Overall, very disparaging.

      What is the name of Vanderhoof’s new company that is affiliated with LHDR?

      • Asenath

        December 4, 2010 at 8:39 pm

        Steve:

        It is my understanding from internal sources that Vanderhoof is now an employee of Legal helpers Debt Resolution, and that his Credit Exchange is undergoing liquidation. LHDR basically bought all his intellectual property and client lists (leads, etc). Jeff Aleman and Thomas Macey are his partners. I wonder what Vanderhoof’s creditors are going to say about him basically sliding his company over to LHDR to avoid paying them?

    • ANTSAL

      February 24, 2011 at 7:00 pm

      PAY TO PLAY WITH THE BBB… IF YOU DONT YOU WILL DROP RATINGS FAST

  40. Kim

    November 14, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Legal Helpers for the debt consolidation is a scam. They lie, lie and lie some more. They told me that each month the money they were taking directly from my savings account was going towards paying my debt down. After 6 months NOTHING was paid. I had to file Chapter 13. I understand I put myself into the debt, but this scam of a company shouldn’t have taken nor should they take advantage of people that are looking to fix there problem. If anyone reads this please, please get yourself a local bankrupcty lawyer pay the $200 bucks to sit with him/her and get REAL legal advice. Do not fall for the debt consolidation scams. They take your money and apply it to the lawyers bank accounts and not your creditors. I learned a very hard lesson, I want to share my story and I have been going on ANY and ALL websites linked to Legal Helpers Debt Consolidation to write so that other consumers who are looking for help. Please, do not use this company. They are a scam….

  41. Kim

    November 15, 2010 at 2:56 am

    Legal Helpers for the debt consolidation is a scam. They lie, lie and lie some more. They told me that each month the money they were taking directly from my savings account was going towards paying my debt down. After 6 months NOTHING was paid. I had to file Chapter 13. I understand I put myself into the debt, but this scam of a company shouldn’t have taken nor should they take advantage of people that are looking to fix there problem. If anyone reads this please, please get yourself a local bankrupcty lawyer pay the $200 bucks to sit with him/her and get REAL legal advice. Do not fall for the debt consolidation scams. They take your money and apply it to the lawyers bank accounts and not your creditors. I learned a very hard lesson, I want to share my story and I have been going on ANY and ALL websites linked to Legal Helpers Debt Consolidation to write so that other consumers who are looking for help. Please, do not use this company. They are a scam….

    • ANTSAL

      February 24, 2011 at 7:04 pm

      YEA KIM I BET THEY TOLD YOU THAT…. I BET YOU WERE JUST LIKE THE REST WERE NOT ABLE TO SAVE ON YOUR OWN. WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY ARE GETTING A FREE SERVICE FOR 4 YEARS. YOUR CALL WAS RECORDED REQUEST THAT AND YOU WOULD THEN REMEMBER THAT THEY DID TELL YOU EVERYTHING UPFRONT AND THROUGH OUT THE WHOLE PROGRAM.

  42. ComplianceSlave

    November 5, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Mr Stevenson- Your point was that 1/2 of a percent is no big deal- where you assumed they had 20,000 clients. So my point, in response is certainly valid. Further, you say you don’ particularly like them because they’re attempting to loophole. They are not attempting. They are, in fact LoopHoling. I’ve been around this business long enough to know that the up front model does nothing but steal from consumers. It is STILL giving an industry getting it’s last shot a bad name. That’s why I don’t particularly like them.
    They always have charged upfront & they are now. My suggestion to their affiliates- Buy a handgun and hold them up directly, why kick money up when you can cut out the middle man.

  43. ComplianceSlave

    November 5, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Mr Stevenson- Your point was that 1/2 of a percent is no big deal- where you assumed they had 20,000 clients. So my point, in response is certainly valid. Further, you say you don’ particularly like them because they’re attempting to loophole. They are not attempting. They are, in fact LoopHoling. I’ve been around this business long enough to know that the up front model does nothing but steal from consumers. It is STILL giving an industry getting it’s last shot a bad name. That’s why I don’t particularly like them.
    They always have charged upfront & they are now. My suggestion to their affiliates- Buy a handgun and hold them up directly, why kick money up when you can cut out the middle man.

    • Robert S

      February 24, 2011 at 7:17 pm

      There you go drawing conclusions again… Junior College or “State” University Education! I didn’t assume LHDR had 20,000 clients… I mentioned if a company (Like Freedom Debt Relief), has 20,000 clients and only 100-200 complaints, it isn’t has significant as its made on this blog.

      And YES. I agree up front fees are unfair. I got to give up with you… Emotional guy that’s all over the place with your posts :)

  44. Robert Stevenson

    November 5, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    @ComplianceSlave : Nice Ad hominem! But we’re looking at different discussions & arguments right?

    You are either thinking 2 things.. 1) What’s Ad hominem!? *Time to google* OR 2) Typing an irrelevant response to my particular comments but relevant to DS industry in general.

    @ Steve, yea I didn’t mean to lump you in there with that comment about them being “shady”… Just casual internet typing, but with that type of claim I should have been more careful.

    @Joe. You are right.. I guess I wanted to point this out because it comes up so often in the DS world about how many BBB complaints with a DSC. Take a look above at @Comliancesteve respnonse “Defend that”.. again, when speaking directly about the LHDR statement & mine, it was bad timing…

    My point is this industry get’s looked at way more closely than others with the % of complaints. Sprint & Verizon are only used as a comparison to companies who have tens of thousands of complaints and still have A & B ratings, etc.

  45. ComplianceSlave

    November 5, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Is that in your script? Using your example:
    Verizon- 16000 complaints- 60,700,000 customers
    = 1 in 3,800
    LHDR- 135 complaints- (No way, but ok….) 20,000 customers
    1 in 148
    Tick, tick, tick….

  46. Joe_debt_jr

    November 4, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Sprint PCS has over 27,000 complaints, T-Mobile has over 24,000 complaints but people are adapt to using cellphones but I don’t think this article was meant to discuss the BBB ratings of these companies and how much complaints. What I see is that LHDR made a comment stating they have a favorable rating on the BBB so I believe Steve was just pointing that out that an F rating is not considered a favorable rating. You are right about being involved in a DSC and having a 100 complaints can put a nice big mark on your company.

  47. Steve Rhode

    November 4, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    For the record, my article did not say LHDR was shady.

  48. Robert Stevenson

    November 4, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    http://www.bbb.org/new-jersey/

    –> This is for verizon wireless. Now, they have over 16,000 complaints. Of course, they have millions of clients, but where do you draw the line? The % of clients to complaints?

    I don’t particularly like LHDR because they are attempting to loop hole, but I always see comments that say “DSC had over 100 complaints!”…. what if they had 20,000? that’d be less than 1/2%. However, it is a Death Mark in the “World Against DS” when they have these types of complaints vs other areas…

    or who knows, maybe you all think Verizon, etc are just as shady….

  49. Joe_debt_jr

    November 4, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    Tony that BBB report you posted states the original start date May of 2009? Why not show the one the other link when they first started on Oct 1994? why you picked that one?

  50. Steve Rhode

    November 4, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    I just posted a big update for you with all my links and supporting research. You’ll find it at the end of the story. What’s interesting is the lhdrhelp.com has removed the link to the BBB report but not the text.

  51. ComplianceSlave

    November 4, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/attorneys-bankruptcy-and-taxes/legal-helpers-pc-in-chicago-il-19002836
    And here they have 136 complaints. Defend that.
    The site you point to Started in 05-09 and 9 complaints. Of course they have 37 BBB pages

  52. Steve Rhode

    November 4, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Tony,

    Click on the source link next to my original statement in the article
    and you will see the archived page at the time I write the piece. It
    says F. This was the page the path from the Legal Helpers site took me
    to.

  53. Tony

    November 4, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    I think you need to check your facts. According to the BBB, Legal Helpers currently has a B+ rating.
    http://www.bbb.org/chicago/bus

  54. Tony

    November 4, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    I think you need to check your facts. According to the BBB, Legal Helpers currently has a B+ rating.
    http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/attorneys/legal-helpers-debt-resolution-in-chicago-il-88372018

    • Steve Rhode

      November 4, 2010 at 8:20 pm

      Tony,

      Click on the source link next to my original statement in the article
      and you will see the archived page at the time I write the piece. It
      says F. This was the page the path from the Legal Helpers site took me
      to.

      • Tonesal5

        June 1, 2011 at 6:36 pm

        STEVE YOU ARE A SHADY OLD MAN THAT PREYS ON PEOPLE’S PROBLEMS

    • ComplianceSlave

      November 4, 2010 at 8:41 pm

      http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/attorneys-bankruptcy-and-taxes/legal-helpers-pc-in-chicago-il-19002836And here they have 136 complaints. Defend that.
      The site you point to Started in 05-09 and 9 complaints. Of course they have 37 BBB pages

      • Robert Stevenson

        November 4, 2010 at 10:48 pm

        http://www.bbb.org/new-jersey/business-reviews/cellular-telephone-service-and-supplies/verizon-wireless-in-bedminster-nj-1001468

        –> This is for verizon wireless. Now, they have over 16,000 complaints. Of course, they have millions of clients, but where do you draw the line? The % of clients to complaints?

        I don’t particularly like LHDR because they are attempting to loop hole, but I always see comments that say “DSC had over 100 complaints!”…. what if they had 20,000? that’d be less than 1/2%. However, it is a Death Mark in the “World Against DS” when they have these types of complaints vs other areas…

        or who knows, maybe you all think Verizon, etc are just as shady….

        • Steve Rhode

          November 4, 2010 at 11:32 pm

          For the record, my article did not say LHDR was shady.

        • Anonymous

          November 4, 2010 at 11:58 pm

          Sprint PCS has over 27,000 complaints, T-Mobile has over 24,000 complaints but people are adapt to using cellphones but I don’t think this article was meant to discuss the BBB ratings of these companies and how much complaints. What I see is that LHDR made a comment stating they have a favorable rating on the BBB so I believe Steve was just pointing that out that an F rating is not considered a favorable rating. You are right about being involved in a DSC and having a 100 complaints can put a nice big mark on your company.

        • ComplianceSlave

          November 5, 2010 at 1:49 pm

          Is that in your script? Using your example:
          Verizon- 16000 complaints- 60,700,000 customers
          = 1 in 3,800
          LHDR- 135 complaints- (No way, but ok….) 20,000 customers
          1 in 148
          Tick, tick, tick….

          • Robert Stevenson

            November 5, 2010 at 8:23 pm

            @ComplianceSlave : Nice Ad hominem! But we’re looking at different discussions & arguments right?

            You are either thinking 2 things.. 1) What’s Ad hominem!? *Time to google* OR 2) Typing an irrelevant response to my particular comments but relevant to DS industry in general.

            @ Steve, yea I didn’t mean to lump you in there with that comment about them being “shady”… Just casual internet typing, but with that type of claim I should have been more careful.

            @Joe. You are right.. I guess I wanted to point this out because it comes up so often in the DS world about how many BBB complaints with a DSC. Take a look above at @Comliancesteve respnonse “Defend that”.. again, when speaking directly about the LHDR statement & mine, it was bad timing…

            My point is this industry get’s looked at way more closely than others with the % of complaints. Sprint & Verizon are only used as a comparison to companies who have tens of thousands of complaints and still have A & B ratings, etc.

          • Tonesal5

            June 1, 2011 at 6:33 pm

            lol no way ummm you dont know how big lhdr is then…. its more then 20k

      • Tonesal5

        June 1, 2011 at 6:32 pm

        LOL defend 136 complaints LOL thats pretty good or even outstanding because if you take the amount of client its less then 1% Steve do better research

        • Really

          June 1, 2011 at 6:58 pm

          Defend THIS then:Government ActionsOn March 2, 2011, Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan announced a suit against Legal Helpers Debt Resolution, LLC (hereinafter LHDR), also known as the law firm of Macey, Aleman, Hyslip, & Searns, for violations of the Illinois Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act and the Illinois Debt Settlement Consumer Protection Act. The lawsuit alleges that LHDR signs retainer agreements with consumers who believe they’re hiring a law firm to provide debt relief services on their behalf. According to Madigan, LHDR actually contracts out virtually all debt relief services to a third party operated and staffed by non-lawyers. Madigan also purports that LHDR charges advance fees which are unfair and in violation of the advance fee ban in the Debt Settlement Consumer Protection Act. According to the lawsuit, participation in LHDR’s program does not produce the positive results that consumers expect at the time they enroll, and many consumers allege their financial situation has gotten worse after enrolling with LHDR.In addition, Madigan alleges LHDR failed to provide an individualized written financial analysis stating the debt settlement program is suitable for the consumer at the time the contract is signed, failed to clearly and conspicuously make all of the required pre-sale consumer disclosures and warnings, failed to provide consumers with a written contract with required disclosures, charged and received fees other than permitted, failed to provide a monthly accounting to consumers, failed to provide cancellation and refunds as required, and engaged in other prohibited practices.Madigan asks the Court to preliminarily and permanently enjoin LHDR from engaging in the deceptive and unfair practices alleged in the lawsuit, and that LHDR be enjoined from engaging in the business of advertising, offering for sale, and selling debt resolution services. Furthermore, Madigan requests the Court to find that all contracts entered into between LHDR and Illinois consumers by the use of methods and practices unlawfully are rescinded. Additionally, Madigan asks for restitution to consumers and civil penalties, as well as investigative costs paid to the State of Illinois.

          • Tonesal5

            June 2, 2011 at 7:44 pm

            The lawsuit *alleges* that LHDR signs retainer agreements with consumers who believe they’re hiring a law firm to provide debt relief services on their behalf

            Clients are hiring a Law Office so theres nothing to defend… Sorry to burst your bubble but there’s nothing that they can do other then burn tax dollars trying to fight a company that represents themselves.How long can illinois drag a case on before they give up hmmmm

          • Steve Rhode

            June 3, 2011 at 1:54 am

            After the last flurry of Tonesal5 nonsensical responses I’ve decided to block Tonesal5 from the comments.

            While I always welcome an elevated conversation about topics, after giving Tonesal5 a very wide latitude to bring some value via comments, Tonesal5 is not adding any value or content Tonesal5 has been able to back up with verifiable facts. Instead the comments have been without added value and merit.

            If Tonesal5 wishes to be reconsidered for commenting then I would first welcome a well sourced, factual and approved guest post of at least 1,000 words from Tonesal5 to lay out Tonesal5’s point of view so we can finally understand what in the world Tonesal5’s point might be.

            Tonesal5, you will need to submit the guest post with your real identity to be considered as a credible source.

    • Steve Rhode

      November 4, 2010 at 8:43 pm

      I just posted a big update for you with all my links and supporting research. You’ll find it at the end of the story. What’s interesting is the lhdrhelp.com has removed the link to the BBB report but not the text.

    • Anonymous

      November 4, 2010 at 8:50 pm

      Tony that BBB report you posted states the original start date May of 2009? Why not show the one the other link when they first started on Oct 1994? why you picked that one?

  55. ComplianceSlave

    November 3, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Ive seen some documentation & heard from sales rooms that they have told them so- It was indirect, however, I’m sure someone else will substantiate it. And, time will tell.

  56. Observer

    November 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Anything to beef up and support your claims and business model.

    Thing is; many of the attorneys who subscribe to TB will, during a consult, be the first ones to tell a consumer “You did what, for how much money to a debt settlement company”?

  57. ComplianceSlave

    November 3, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Some attorneys have quit due to complaints by state Bar’s or AGs. However, I believe they recently partnered with Totalbankruptcy and they now claim to have 600 attys….

  58. Joe_debt_jr

    November 2, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Its funny they list all the affiliate attorneys and also state on their website they have offices in all 50 states but I don’t see AZ,CT,IA,KS,MA,VT, and WY? I wonder if they meant they have affiliate attorneys cousins n uncles that has offices in all 50 states.

  59. Anonymous

    November 2, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    Its funny they list all the affiliate attorneys and also state on their website they have offices in all 50 states but I don’t see AZ,CT,IA,KS,MA,VT, and WY? I wonder if they meant they have affiliate attorneys cousins n uncles that has offices in all 50 states.

    • ComplianceSlave

      November 3, 2010 at 6:28 pm

      Some attorneys have quit due to complaints by state Bar’s or AGs. However, I believe they recently partnered with Totalbankruptcy and they now claim to have 600 attys….

      • Observer

        November 3, 2010 at 6:35 pm

        Anything to beef up and support your claims and business model.

        Thing is; many of the attorneys who subscribe to TB will, during a consult, be the first ones to tell a consumer “You did what, for how much money to a debt settlement company”?

        • ComplianceSlave

          November 3, 2010 at 6:41 pm

          Ive seen some documentation & heard from sales rooms that they have told them so- It was indirect, however, I’m sure someone else will substantiate it. And, time will tell.

          • Tonesal5

            June 1, 2011 at 6:37 pm

            I’m sure someone else will substantiate it. And, time will tell…. DO YOU MEAN YOUR BF STEVE OR DAMON BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE ALL IN ON THIS WEBSITE

          • VinnyTheGuinny

            June 1, 2011 at 7:15 pm

            Really Anthony Salgado? Check with the State of CT. Youre so smart? CT sent the lawyers they had there complaints & those attorneys claimed they didnt do any work, just rented their names. They are no longer w/ lhdr. But you know it all, right?
            Tell you what Jerkoff, since you have no clue, lets ignore your crap. Until you tell the truth somewhere, why dont you go away? 
            BTW, thats really professional of you- representing a lawfirm and all by resorting to calling the website host gay? Im sure Macey approves of your stupidity. Keep it up Stu-nad

    • Tonesal5

      June 1, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT FIND IT DOESNT MEAN THERE NOT THERE…

  60. Observer

    November 2, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Now that you have exposed this, and after close consult with my crystal ball, I am certain they change it. Good catch though.

    May I also predict the inevitable comments on this post to come which will include some variation of “The BBB is a scam, biased, pay to play” or additional such attempts to distract from the fact that LHDR earned their F with the BBB.

  61. Observer

    November 2, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Now that you have exposed this, and after close consult with my crystal ball, I am certain they change it. Good catch though.

    May I also predict the inevitable comments on this post to come which will include some variation of “The BBB is a scam, biased, pay to play” or additional such attempts to distract from the fact that LHDR earned their F with the BBB.

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