Blue Tax Review. Hiding From Public. But Why?

Recently I heard from a fellow web owner at DebtorsUnite.com about a tax relief company called Blue Tax.

Apparently his article, “Can Blue Tax Really Settle My Tax Debt?,” got the attention of the Blue Tax people and they want him to take down his post or revise it.

Ken Long, who wrote the original article had said, “They make amazing claims that they can eliminate penalties and reduce your tax debt. There is a problem with their approach: some of their claims cross the line of what is considered fair advertising.”

I’d have to agree with Ken that the statements in the commercial certainly have my radar up. At the very least these blanket statements give the impression that all clients of Blue tax get these results.

If the settlement shown is not typical then in my book it would be deceptive. Blue Tax is very silent on how many consumers have received such settlements. If the settlement shown was not the average of all enrolled consumers into their service then I’d have to say the statement is misleading as well.

The other screen captures, above, from the commercial certainly give the impression that all collection calls will be stopped, and bank levies and wage garnishments will be removed for all clients. – Source

Blue Tax Television Commercial

Here is one of the commercials run by Blue Tax. – Source

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpQL8dS-1bY

Blue Tax Concerns

One area of the Blue Tax website that has me concerned is the fact they are not forthcoming about their business location. – Source

Even the contact us page does not list a physical street address, yet they want consumers to feel comfortable disclosing and sending in sensitive financial data. – Source, Source

The lack of an address sent me researching

The Blue Tax California Corporate registration says:

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Entity Name: BLUE TAX, INC.
Entity Number: C3229692
Date Filed: 09/15/2009
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 3440 WILSHIRE BLVD STE 1100
Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90010
Agent for Service of Process: REGISTERED AGENT SOLUTIONS, INC.
Agent Address: 1220 S ST STE 150
Agent City, State, Zip: SACRAMENTO CA 95811

But Google reports “This place is permanently closed” when you do a search for Blue Tax at that address.

So I took a look at their domain registration to see if that could give me a better address for them.

Here is what that uncovered:

BlueTaxInc.com
Created on: 25-Sep-09

Domain is owned by:
Richard Lopez
3600 Wilshire Blvd.
Suite 1716
Los Angeles, California 90010

That address appears to actually belong to:

Edgardo Lopez Law Office
3600 Wilshire Blvd Ste 1716
Los Angeles, CA 90010

Servicios Legales Del Abogado Edgardo Lopez
3600 Wilshire Blvd Ste 1716
Los Angeles, CA 90010

R & J Legal Service
3600 Wilshire Blvd Ste 1716
Los Angeles , CA 90010

I Reached Out to Blue Tax And they Refused to Give Me an Address

I reached out to Blue Tax and asked them for their physical street address. You can see the chat below.

Transcript

Steve: What is your physical business address?
livehelpadmin: we are in los angeles, how can I help you?
Steve: What is the physical street address where the office is located? It’s not on your website.
livehelpadmin: may i ASK FOR WHAT PURPOSES? wE GET A LOT OF UNWANTED SOLICITATION
livehelpadmin: sorry about caps
Steve: So I can know where you are located. It does not say on your website.
livehelpadmin: I understand that. Do you have a tax problem?
livehelpadmin: ok, good luck. Sounds like you are selling something
Steve: Actually I have an address problem. I’m trying to figure out if you are legit but you keep avoiding the very simple question.
livehelpadmin: call me on the phone, I will be happy tospeak to you.
Steve: The fact that you are unwilling to tell me where you are located makes my radar go up that you are not legit. Last chance. What’s your physical street address, please.
livehelpadmin: well, my radar is beeping “SALES GUY, SALES GUY” STay away
livehelpadmin: if you would like to speak seriously, feel free to give me a call and we can talk about your tax problem.
livehelpadmin: my instincts seem to be correct
livehelpadmin: good luck
livehelpadmin: we are not interested

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Why the Hide and Seek?

So between the over the top sales claims and the fact they are not willing to disclose where they are really located, my scam radar is going off big time.

From what I’ve seen, I’m going to have to agree with Ken Long on this one, something doesn’t appear kosher.

Sincerly,
Steve

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44 thoughts on “Blue Tax Review. Hiding From Public. But Why?”

  1. I talked to them this morning and asked to meet in person, and the guy said sure, they’re in Downtown LA on Wilshire near Western. (I had to check my calendar before making the appointment, so he didn’t give me the exact address yet.) So I think the 3600 Wilshire address is probably correct. Also, they are willing to meet with me. I want to look them in the eye before I throw $2,500 their way.

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    • Jessica, I found a cool blog from this Enrolled Agent that has similar information like how Steve writes on his blog about companies. He will give you a list of all the companies including his competitors and base his opinions on how they do things. 
      http://taxresolutiontalk.blogspot.com/ You shouldn’t agree or commit thousands of dollars before you fully understand your tax issues. 

      I’ll give you an example, if you owe less than $25k you will meet the IRS Streamline criteria meaning that if you can afford an even payment up to 72 months(before was only 60 months) thru the new IRS Fresh Start Initiative. Just divide what you owe as long as it’s below $25k by 72 and that is your streamline installment. You make one call to the IRS and they will set that up for you no questions ask no detailed financial information needed. Let’s suppose you owe $25k that would be 72 equal payments of $347. Now if that payment is not affordable than a full financial disclosure to substantiate why you cannot afford it would be required. 

      Another example: If you owe more than $25k but less than $50k, the new IRS Fresh Start Initiative will allow you to meet the streamline with limited financial information. Just fill out the IRS form 9465-FS and request a streamline by dividing what you owe by 72 months. What makes this plan unique is that the IRS does require an automatic debit in order for you meet this guideline. 

      Once again if you cannot afford the Streamline Payment Agreement than a full financial disclosure will be required in order to calculate your true abilities to repay what you owe. 

      Warning do not be fooled by companies that make promises on a specific outcome. I had a client that spoke with more than 4 companies and they all had promised her that she fits perfectly for the Offer In Compromise criteria. We took on her case and her financial shows that they have the ability to pay a little over $150 for a 2009 tax liability of $23,000. 

      Warning do not be fooled by companies telling you they can abate your penalties and interest. Yes penalties can be abated but only if you have reasonable cause to support why the IRS should consider abating your penalties. First understand why you were penalized? Did you file late? Were you not able to pay the amount owed by the due date? Did the IRS examine your tax return and found there was under reporting of income issues? etc… Once you pinpoint why you were penalized now ask yourself, what reasonable cause that prevented you to avoid all these penalties. 

      Resolving a tax matter is no different from filing a new tax return. The IRS has special rules and circumstances that will allow you to meet their criteria’s in order to either clam deductions or credits etc.. So same rules applies when you owe back taxes you must meet those special rules and circumstances in order to meet a specific resolution to your problem. 

      I guarantee you one thing, tax resolution is not having an A rating on the BBB, its not about having a better and well experience negotiator to speak on your behalf. It’s about being able to understand the same collection methods and manual that all IRS agents uses to determine on how to collect your past due balances. No secrets no special magic. Everyone uses the same procedures so a true licensed tax professional must also understand the rules before they make any request to the IRS for a specific resolution. 

      Best of luck… My opinion is to make sure you contact a few tax firm before making a decision and make sure the person you are talking to about your tax case truly has the authorities to discuss your tax matters like licensed tax professional such as Licensed Tax Practitioner, Enrolled Agents, Tax Attorney or a CPA. 

       

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  2. Richard did own that office because him an another associate shared the company’s ownership. How ever he left the company, therefore his office in Los Angeles has been closed. They did not give you a physical address because it is a call-in business. You are not permitted to come into the office. To be proved “legit” does not include telling ‘customers’ there location. Your arguement is invalid.

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  3. Interesting that you promote you own business by complaining about Blue Tax. It looks like you and your friend Ken  are trying to ride off their coat tails of a successful marketing campaign.  Also, in the live chat you posted you clearly don’t have a tax problem, and you are a solicitor.  Looks like you are upset because they called your bluff. Maybe you should do your research before making accusations like these. Blue Tax has an A with the BBB.  Sounds like you are a competitor.

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      • But the sponsors on your site offer debt relief as an alternative to tax relief. They pay you and you benefit indirectly.  You are not fooling many people.  Again,  Blue Tax has an A rating with the BBB. That’s how I square it. Why would you be so deceptive in your live chat?  Please square that.

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        • I didn’t realize asking for the address of the company was a deceptive practice. So the BBB reports the address of the company is 3440 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1100, Los Angeles, CA 90010.

          Do you know if that the physical address of the company?

          Debt relief is the same as tax relief? How?

          For information about the ads on this site, follow the link.

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        •  Frankly, I don’t see how Blue Tax could have an A rating with the BBB, but of course the BBB isn’t really anything to depend on as a consumer because they only deal with the members that pay them and the most they can do is drop them from their program.It’s really a weak organization. Just because the BBB says a company has an A, doesn’t mean they deserve an A, just means that they haven’t had any complaints about their members.

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