Over the past few days I had received some documents from individuals that claimed to work with/for Mitchell Stein in his efforts to pursue mass joinder lawsuits.
Particularly damaging in the documentation was information that could be perceived as an inducement by others that are blogging and promoting Stein in his efforts.
In an effort to verify the documentation I emailed the people identified as the originators of the emails. In fact what I asked was:
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I got your faxes on Stein. Some really explosive stuff.
I was hoping you could help put the material into context for me. It clearly does appear that [redacted] is getting a financial benefit from Stein and that [redacted] may be participating but do you have any email that shows some sort of compensation for X?
If this can be proven, the two guys that have been the most vocal advocates for Stein will have some explaining to do.
I need your help to get me over the finish line on this.
In response I instead received this email.
Mr. Rhode:
I am an attorney with Mitchell J. Stein & Associates. It has come to my attention that earlier today you sent an email to [redacted] and [redacted] in response a set of documents that they purportedly faxed to you regarding Mr. Stein and his practice of law.
We wish to inform you that the documents you received by fax were NOT sent to you by [redacted] and [redacted] but, instead, were sent by an unknown computer hacker who had managed to illegally obtain access to one of Mr. Stein’s private email accounts.
We take this matter very seriously. Not only was Mr. Stein’s right to privacy violated by this criminal act, but the documents sent to you were obtained through violation of multiple federal statutes, not to mention California Penal Code § 502 regarding hacking and computer crimes.
Further, they appeared to be forged and/or altered.
YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT IF YOU PUBLISH OR DSSEMINATE THE MATERIALS YOU RECEIVED BY FAX REGARDING MR. STEIN IN ANY MANNER, WE WILL COMMENCE A CIVIL ACTION AGAINST YOU FOR MONETARY DAMAGES AS WELL AS PUNITIVE DAMAGES FOR YOUR KNOWING AND MALICIOUS FURTHER DISSEMINATION OF STOLEN FILES AND PRIVATE INFORMATION.
We have reported this matter to the FBI. We do not want you to be part of any resulting investigation. You would be smart to destroy all materials you received and never speak of them to anyone.
If you have any questions, please feel free to call me. My direct line at the law firm is [redacted].
Thank you.
Erikson M. Davis
Attorney at Law
Mitchell J. Stein & Associates
What it appears I did not get was a denial that the information and allegations shown in the documents were not true. Anyone read that differently?
It appears that the information contained in the emails faxed to me struck a nerve. I think the allegation is that Stein’s email account was hacked and then the documents were forged? That seems like a heck of an effort to simply forge a document but that seems to be the position.
Hopefully Stein’s attorney will keep us posted on this matter and the results of their investigation so I can update you.
As a journalist I’m free to disseminate the material if I believe it to be factual but the bigger story just became the threat. Is there a coverup going on or an attempt to discredit Stein with his own or forged emails?
The mass joinder world is a strange and odd place these days. Apparently not only do consumers need to beware but the lawyers as well.
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Mitchell J. Stein was ordered inactive to not eligible to practice law in California on January 1, 2012.
Mitchell J. Stein was ordered inactive to not eligible to practice law in California on January 1, 2012.
Jimminy Christmas. This whole thing makes me laugh. It’s all deck chairs on the Titanic. Do you know how flippin long we’ve been working? Even if the mortgage scam never happened we’d have plenty. Do you think Becky Parret came back because she forgot her make-up? You think nobody over all these years would drop a dime? The best thing for you little pilot fish to do is swim away from the big shark as far and as fast as you possibly can. Exhibit some wisdom and self awareness and maybe you’ll get to see your kids grow up without visiting hours. Its coming.
Fair warning, that was.
Fair warning, that was.
Jimminy Christmas. This whole thing makes me laugh. It’s all deck chairs on the Titanic. Do you know how flippin long we’ve been working? Even if the mortgage scam never happened we’d have plenty. Do you think Becky Parret came back because she forgot her make-up? You think nobody over all these years would drop a dime? The best thing for you little pilot fish to do is swim away from the big shark as far and as fast as you possibly can. Exhibit some wisdom and self awareness and maybe you’ll get to see your kids grow up without visiting hours. Its coming.
I wouldnt show my name when it comes to the real dregs of the legal profession here. The firms that want to go for the “get rich quick” at any cost are welcome to, but I wouldnt connect my name to it for $20,000,000.Â
Good luck to you and all of your lawsuits Mr. Wright. If you somehow still believe that you are involved with ethical people, God bless you.
As for me, I will go back to my very little practice- Where I actually practice law, without fee splitting, marketing companies, sales affiliates, warring attorneys and firms and hacked databases & emails and threats of theft and fraud- Â and ACTUALLY earn my living. But that’s just me.
Good day & good luck.
Call me a coward- I’m happy to hide (from this garbage)
I wouldnt show my name when it comes to the real dregs of the legal profession here. The firms that want to go for the “get rich quick” at any cost are welcome to, but I wouldnt connect my name to it for $20,000,000.
Good luck to you and all of your lawsuits Mr. Wright. If you somehow still believe that you are involved with ethical people, God bless you.
As for me, I will go back to my very little practice- Where I actually practice law, without fee splitting, marketing companies, sales affiliates, warring attorneys and firms and hacked databases & emails and threats of theft and fraud- and ACTUALLY earn my living. But that’s just me.
Good day & good luck.
Call me a coward- I’m happy to hide (from this garbage)
Nice job on the video. Great production skills.
John,
Kramer and Stein working together as associated attorneys? At least that’s what Consolidated Litigation Group says. See this story.
You should take it that I’ve been really busy.
Wow, I hope when you folks are done bickering about chat rooms and threaty threats, perhaps you can carve out an hour or two to help people with their loans.
Wow, I hope when you folks are done bickering about chat rooms and threaty threats, perhaps you can carve out an hour or two to help people with their loans.
I’m helping people help Maraia Sauqaqu with voice lessons. I think she’ll sing like Mariah Carey with a little incentive. I’m also helping David J. Bernardo learn to spell his name correctly. He needs to learn that he can’t spell it Bernardo for legal work and “Berando” for other work. He may get some voice lessons as well.
Comments only go five levels deep. What you can do is either start a new comment and mention the person using the @ feature or go up one level to that persons last comment.
John,
FYI, you seemed to direct your Honda answer at me but I didn’t ask the question.
John,
FYI, you seemed to direct your Honda answer at me but I didn’t ask the question.
Comments only go five levels deep. What you can do is either start a new comment and mention the person using the @ feature or go up one level to that persons last comment.
You should take it that I’ve been really busy.
John,
Kramer and Stein working together as associated attorneys? At least that’s what Consolidated Litigation Group says. See this story.
Nice job on the video. Great production skills.
What basis are you suing Honda for? You defaulted on your vehicle note, Honda took the cars and you’re suing? Truly curious.
John sure seems like a nice enough guy but the arguments he’s making seem
like the longest of reaches and the wrong approach.
1. I had no part in the gathering of the material.
2. I played no role and had no knowledge of the material before it was sent
to me without my request.
3. I notified the parties labeled as writers of the material, gave copies
back, and thus my actions helped to identify there was a leak or security
problem that was addressed.
4. I’ve made no mention of the parties named in the material, except for
those identified in the response from Davis. Only Wright has publicly
identified alleged involved parties.
5. The story is a factual listing of the events.
What I don’t get is why either Wright believes, or Wright is under the
impression from Stein that Stein is going to sue me over this. I gladly
acknowledge that anybody can sue anyone for anything at anytime, but that’s
not the smart play here.
The smarter PR play by Stein would have been for him to play up his role as
the victim in all of this to show how others must be afraid of what he is
doing and targeting him. But no, if Wright’s statements are correct the move
is going to be to sue the innocent journalist that helped to seal the leak
by bringing it forward to the correct parties.
I agree with you. I’m more interested in who was feeding Wright false
information to inflame and manipulate him. That’s where the real story is.
Outside of that it’s just another trip in “bizarro” mass joinder land.
I am an attorney. As such, it seems so odd the stance Wright takes from beginning to end. Once convinced he is not a part of the emails, the agenda remains, but the reasons change. Wright threatens many different threats throughout the threat in an attempt to have a journalists story removed. Wrights latest attempt comes with 4 “reasons” Rhodes can be sued. Well, certainly he can- though without much merit, if any. A suit on the basis of those 4 “reasons” to remove the story would be laughed out of the most liberal of courts. That is where the term “Reaching” was developed.Â
None of any of this would hurt Wright’s Honda case. So, what is the reason to make such demands with so little merit? Wright should be spending all of his efforts on an examination into the tipster who lied directly to him. Perhaps Wright could share with us the tipster’s motive for doing so. I can not figure out why, once Wright admits his source lied to him he continues to go after Rhode- who never mentioned Wright. Perhaps a simple need for attention?
Very odd.
Let’s go back and look at the story.
1. I got faxed some documents.
2. I attempted to confirm the accuracy of the documents by emailing them to the people that allegedly sent them.
3. I sent an email to the alleged senders, email above.
4. Mr. Davis sent me back the notice you see above.
5. I commented that if someone hacked Stein’s account that there must be an agenda against Stein.
Stein can certainly sue but he’ll wind up looking like a bully and an ass over this issue. Besides the documents would then be part of the case and then made public.
I have no agenda against Stein nor did I have any agenda against Brookstone. If you notice, on the site, these issues have very little real estate and represent a very small minority of the posts out there.
My story is an open and honest reporting of the facts surrounding this issue. I have not disseminated the faxes to anyone else, I have no revealed names in the faxes, and I’m more than willing to participate in any FBI investigation of the matter.
Please pass on a message that the smarter way forward would be for him to send me a statement with his side of the story and talking about the hacking of his account and what he thinks is the motive for someone doing this to him. I’m more than willing to give him a platform to give his side of the story.
The story became his email was hacked and if anything I played a role in bringing it to his attention by attempting to verify the authenticity of the documents which lead to the discovery of the hacking.
John,
You have written much more about this than I ever did and you linked your name to it, I did not. I have never said you were involved in this, only you did.
You just made the story about Stein getting his information hacked and having to notify his clients their personal information was compromised.
John, if you want to help Stein, please stop commenting. The comments are only making this worse.
I can sense you are stressed out.
I put my name behind everything I print. In my world I get documents faxed or sent to me all the time. Most of them go nowhere and I never publish them, as in this case. I have not published them and don’t intend to.
The reason this became a story was because of the unusual letter I got from the attorney. A simple denial the documents were not real from the people that allegedly sent them would have been fine with me to kill it. But what was up with the overkill threatening response. Either Davis doesn’t know how to deal with the press or there was something they didn’t want people to see. I figured I’d let readers make that determination.
My advice would be for you to contact Davis, ask him to show you the email I sent to the two people identified in the email I sent them. You will see that everything I have said in my article is the whole story from my side.
If anyone is telling you I have some massive stash of documents about you or I want to crush you it is a total lie and I’m not sure I can even begin to understand why winding you up is the motive unless someone wants you to go ballistic and go after me to discredit me for something I did not do. Examine the source that is feeding you this bogus information.
You will see by my article above I was dubious of the context of the documents and they had not confirmed or reveled anything I could write about.
What I did say is that if they were put into some context where there was proof of $ for X (whatever X was, I didn’t know what that was) then there would be some explaining to do. That is most certainly an obvious and statement to make based on the attempt to discredit two people with the emails. There was nothing nefarious or sinister about my effort to understand the emails that were faxed to me.
If I had some intention to crush you why would I have reached out to the alleged authors of the emails to verify them?
Take a good look at the source that is feeding you this bull and look at the situation in a different way. What is their motive? Let me know what you think.
BTW, My wife says she was never in your chat room. Must have been a spoofer.
John,
Here is how this all played out. I got faxed some documents. I think it was about 8 pages of emails. I contacted the people that allegedly sent this to me to confirm they were real and to put them in context for me. They asked me to send them the documents I received. I did. I then got the letter you see above.
John, somebody is winding you all up from your side. Davis has the documents in question and he can show them to you. The documents I received were emails. If the FBI is investigating the matter then I am happy to cooperate but Davis already has all the pages I got.
Steve
John,
Nobody would have associated names with my post if YOU had not posted them. There was nothing in my post that would have allowed anyone to piece anything together or link it to any name.
John, if you don’t want people to connect this to you then please stop posting this stuff and drawing yourself in to it.
Your name and a second persons name was NEVER posted by me, and in fact I’ve not admitted that it was your name, you keep saying it. Not me.
Only Mr. Davis, who has the documents can give them to you. I no longer have them.
Please stop posting your information here if you want to keep your name out of it. You are the one spilling information that people would never have known.
If someone told you your name was posted in this article, they are flat out lying to you and again, you see to being played for the benefit of someone else.
John,
No problem.
Good luck on whatever the Honda thing is.
Steve
John,
I have no idea what you are talking about or what a Honda lawsuit is.
At this point you have released more information about things than I have.
Everything I have said about the faxed documents I received you can see above in the article. Let’s say hypothetically you were one of the names I did not reveal and redacted in my article. You can see I never made any allegations about crushing, etc. Again, I categorically never made any such statement that I “was going to crush” anyone.
I have not threatened to release any emails. I received emails and attempted to verify them by contacting the people that appear to be involved with them. In response I received the email you see above.
End of story.
What I’m interested in at this point is who is feeding you this information that is not true because you appear to being played by someone.
John,
I have no idea what you are talking about or what a Honda lawsuit is.
At this point you have released more information about things than I have.
Everything I have said about the faxed documents I received you can see above in the article. Let’s say hypothetically you were one of the names I did not reveal and redacted in my article. You can see I never made any allegations about crushing, etc. Again, I categorically never made any such statement that I “was going to crush” anyone.
I have not threatened to release any emails. I received emails and attempted to verify them by contacting the people that appear to be involved with them. In response I received the email you see above.
End of story.
What I’m interested in at this point is who is feeding you this information that is not true because you appear to being played by someone.
John,
No problem.
Good luck on whatever the Honda thing is.
Steve
John,
Nobody would have associated names with my post if YOU had not posted them. There was nothing in my post that would have allowed anyone to piece anything together or link it to any name.
John, if you don’t want people to connect this to you then please stop posting this stuff and drawing yourself in to it.
Your name and a second persons name was NEVER posted by me, and in fact I’ve not admitted that it was your name, you keep saying it. Not me.
Only Mr. Davis, who has the documents can give them to you. I no longer have them.
Please stop posting your information here if you want to keep your name out of it. You are the one spilling information that people would never have known.
If someone told you your name was posted in this article, they are flat out lying to you and again, you see to being played for the benefit of someone else.
John,
Here is how this all played out. I got faxed some documents. I think it was about 8 pages of emails. I contacted the people that allegedly sent this to me to confirm they were real and to put them in context for me. They asked me to send them the documents I received. I did. I then got the letter you see above.
John, somebody is winding you all up from your side. Davis has the documents in question and he can show them to you. The documents I received were emails. If the FBI is investigating the matter then I am happy to cooperate but Davis already has all the pages I got.
Steve
BTW, My wife says she was never in your chat room. Must have been a spoofer.
I can sense you are stressed out.
I put my name behind everything I print. In my world I get documents faxed or sent to me all the time. Most of them go nowhere and I never publish them, as in this case. I have not published them and don’t intend to.
The reason this became a story was because of the unusual letter I got from the attorney. A simple denial the documents were not real from the people that allegedly sent them would have been fine with me to kill it. But what was up with the overkill threatening response. Either Davis doesn’t know how to deal with the press or there was something they didn’t want people to see. I figured I’d let readers make that determination.
My advice would be for you to contact Davis, ask him to show you the email I sent to the two people identified in the email I sent them. You will see that everything I have said in my article is the whole story from my side.
If anyone is telling you I have some massive stash of documents about you or I want to crush you it is a total lie and I’m not sure I can even begin to understand why winding you up is the motive unless someone wants you to go ballistic and go after me to discredit me for something I did not do. Examine the source that is feeding you this bogus information.
You will see by my article above I was dubious of the context of the documents and they had not confirmed or reveled anything I could write about.
What I did say is that if they were put into some context where there was proof of $ for X (whatever X was, I didn’t know what that was) then there would be some explaining to do. That is most certainly an obvious and statement to make based on the attempt to discredit two people with the emails. There was nothing nefarious or sinister about my effort to understand the emails that were faxed to me.
If I had some intention to crush you why would I have reached out to the alleged authors of the emails to verify them?
Take a good look at the source that is feeding you this bull and look at the situation in a different way. What is their motive? Let me know what you think.
John,
You have written much more about this than I ever did and you linked your name to it, I did not. I have never said you were involved in this, only you did.
You just made the story about Stein getting his information hacked and having to notify his clients their personal information was compromised.
John, if you want to help Stein, please stop commenting. The comments are only making this worse.
Let’s go back and look at the story.
1. I got faxed some documents.
2. I attempted to confirm the accuracy of the documents by emailing them to the people that allegedly sent them.
3. I sent an email to the alleged senders, email above.
4. Mr. Davis sent me back the notice you see above.
5. I commented that if someone hacked Stein’s account that there must be an agenda against Stein.
Stein can certainly sue but he’ll wind up looking like a bully and an ass over this issue. Besides the documents would then be part of the case and then made public.
I have no agenda against Stein nor did I have any agenda against Brookstone. If you notice, on the site, these issues have very little real estate and represent a very small minority of the posts out there.
My story is an open and honest reporting of the facts surrounding this issue. I have not disseminated the faxes to anyone else, I have no revealed names in the faxes, and I’m more than willing to participate in any FBI investigation of the matter.
Please pass on a message that the smarter way forward would be for him to send me a statement with his side of the story and talking about the hacking of his account and what he thinks is the motive for someone doing this to him. I’m more than willing to give him a platform to give his side of the story.
The story became his email was hacked and if anything I played a role in bringing it to his attention by attempting to verify the authenticity of the documents which lead to the discovery of the hacking.
I am an attorney. As such, it seems so odd the stance Wright takes from beginning to end. Once convinced he is not a part of the emails, the agenda remains, but the reasons change. Wright threatens many different threats throughout the threat in an attempt to have a journalists story removed. Wrights latest attempt comes with 4 “reasons” Rhodes can be sued. Well, certainly he can- though without much merit, if any. A suit on the basis of those 4 “reasons” to remove the story would be laughed out of the most liberal of courts. That is where the term “Reaching” was developed.
None of any of this would hurt Wright’s Honda case. So, what is the reason to make such demands with so little merit? Wright should be spending all of his efforts on an examination into the tipster who lied directly to him. Perhaps Wright could share with us the tipster’s motive for doing so. I can not figure out why, once Wright admits his source lied to him he continues to go after Rhode- who never mentioned Wright. Perhaps a simple need for attention?
Very odd.
John sure seems like a nice enough guy but the arguments he’s making seem
like the longest of reaches and the wrong approach.
1. I had no part in the gathering of the material.
2. I played no role and had no knowledge of the material before it was sent
to me without my request.
3. I notified the parties labeled as writers of the material, gave copies
back, and thus my actions helped to identify there was a leak or security
problem that was addressed.
4. I’ve made no mention of the parties named in the material, except for
those identified in the response from Davis. Only Wright has publicly
identified alleged involved parties.
5. The story is a factual listing of the events.
What I don’t get is why either Wright believes, or Wright is under the
impression from Stein that Stein is going to sue me over this. I gladly
acknowledge that anybody can sue anyone for anything at anytime, but that’s
not the smart play here.
The smarter PR play by Stein would have been for him to play up his role as
the victim in all of this to show how others must be afraid of what he is
doing and targeting him. But no, if Wright’s statements are correct the move
is going to be to sue the innocent journalist that helped to seal the leak
by bringing it forward to the correct parties.
I agree with you. I’m more interested in who was feeding Wright false
information to inflame and manipulate him. That’s where the real story is.
Outside of that it’s just another trip in “bizarro” mass joinder land.
What basis are you suing Honda for? You defaulted on your vehicle note, Honda took the cars and you’re suing? Truly curious.
perhaps this is the beginning of “joinder-gate” or maybe “wiki-joinder” or “franken-stein”
perhaps this is the beginning of “joinder-gate” or maybe “wiki-joinder” or “franken-stein”