Consumer Statement:
I was just scammed out of $7900 from Your Remedy is in the law.com.
Consumer Action Taken:
I asked them for a refund which they refused.
Date This Problem Happened: June 6, 2012
State You Live in: North Carolina
Race/Ethnicity: American Indian
Age Range: 36-50
Total Amount of Fee Paid: $7,900
Company Name: Your Remedy Is In The Law
Company Address: Florida
Company Telephone Number: 405-406-6521
Website of Company: yourremedyisinthelaw.com
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MICHAEL EDWARD’S REPLY IN UPPER CASE – I AM NOT SHOUTING – JUST
DIFFERENTIATING
UNFORTUNATELY YOUR MEDIUM DOES NOT ALLOW FOR FONT/COLOR MODIFICATION
How do you un-ring the bell you ask. Well I’d start with
making sure there are no unhappy customers that are out any money.
ME WRITES: NOW, IN REAL LIFE, THAT WOULD BE A NEAT
TRICK. WOULDN’T IT?
I AM ONE NOT OF THE OPINION THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS
RIGHT. THEREFORE, YOU AND I WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO
DISAGREE ON THAT POINT.
Financially distressed consumers are considered to be a
disadvantaged class of consumers by many regulators and they get additional
attention.
ME WRITES: WITH SPECIFIC RESPECT TO THE COMPLAINANT IN
THIS ISSUE, I ASSURE YOU THIS ONE IS ANYTHING BUT A DISADVANTAGED CLASS OF
CONSUMER IF THERE TRULY IS SUCH A THING.
I FIND THIS ONE TO BE VERY INTELLIGENT , HIGHLY MOTIVATED, ARTICULATE AND ALL THE POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES I BELIEVE MAY
BE FOUND IN SOMEONE TO ADMIRE.
ON TO YOUR STATEMENT WITH VAILED WARNING: YES, I’VE OBSERVED OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS OR
SO THE VICTIM MENTALITY GROWING AT AN ALARMING AND TREMENDOUS RATE. IT IS
SAD THAT SOME PEOPLE SIMPLY WON’T ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS
OR LACK OF ACTIONS. WHAT IS EVEN MORE
SAD IS WHEN THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE ENABLED AND ENCOURAGED TO CONTINUE THIS
NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR RATHER THAN OVERCOMING THEIR ‘DISADVANTAGE’ AS YOU PUT IT. IT APPEARS SOCIETY TODAY IS GEARED TOWARDS
THIS FORM OF WELFARE.
I AM OF THE OPINION, HERE IN AMERICA, WE HAVE BUT ONE CLASS
OF PEOPLE: AMERICANS. TO BE A HIPHENATED-AMERICAN OR ACCEPT
YOU ARE ANOTHER CLASS OF AMERICAN, IS TO OUR OWN NATIONAL DETRIMENT.
SO, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
ARE YOU SAYING PEOPLE NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM THEMSELVES? IF SO, I DISAGREE. I DO NOT EMBRACE THE DOCTRINE OF PARENS PATRIAE. A FOOL WILL BE A FOOL. I EMBRACE THE DOCTRINE OF THE RULE OF LAW
OVER THE RULE OF MEN; THE VISION OF OUR FOUNDERS IN THIS LAND OF OPPORTUNITY.
ARE YOU SAYING PEOPLE NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM OTHERS? IF SO,
I AGREE. HERE IN AMERICA WE HAVE CIVIL LITIGATION
TO REMEDY THAT ISSUE.
BY THE WAY, DID YOU KNOW IN UTAH [CODE § 76-5-112.5] THAT
IF YOU CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE WHO IS 65 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER THAT YOU CAN BE
CHARGED CRIMINALLY SIMPLY BECAUSE UTAH NOW HAS DECIDED THAT SOMEONE 65 YEARS OF
AGE OR OLDER IS A “VULNERABLE ADULT”?
YUP! THAT’S RIGHT – JUST BECAUSE YOU TURN 65 YEARS IN AGE YOU ARE NO
LONGER ABLE TO THINK FOR YOURSELF AND
YOU MUST BE WATCHED OVER AND PROTECTED – YOU ARE ‘VULNERABLE’ IN THE EYES OF
THE STATE. GEE, I WONDER HOW MANY
VOTERS IN UTAH ARE OVER THE AGE OF 65? I
WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 65 ARE SERVING IN PUBLIC OFFICE?
The best thing is to stop complaints before they escalate to
people feeling as if they need to go online and post their discontent.
ME WRITES: WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW SOMEONE FEELS ABOUT
SOMETHING, FOR SURE. THAT IS ONLY
CIVILIZED. HOWEVER, WE ALSO NEED TO
DETERMINE WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG.
Rather than encouraging communication between the consumer
and the other party you mention, to un-ring this bell you would probably have
had to taken a very active role between the two entities and help the consumer
get their money back. If they had they would not have felt a reason to
complain.
ME WRITES: WHY AND HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO PRESUME THIS
CONSUMER HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR MONEY BACK?
……JUST BECAUSE THEY SAID SO?
I CAN SEE WHERE YOU TAKING THAT
POSITION WOULD MAKE YOU VERY WELL LIKED HERE, BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY EVEN
HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT RIGHT? REALLY? THIS
FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE “SOCIETY OWES ME” LINE OF THINKING.
The posting is a consumer submission and is not verified by
the site before it’s posted.
ME WRITES: WELL, MAYBE IT WOULD BE MORE RESPONSIBLE OF
YOU TO INVESTIGATE AND VERIFY RATHER THAN ENABLING ONE TO IMPUGN ANOTHER SO
EASILY.
It is consumer
submitted content, just like comments (including your comment) and this
approach exists on posts on almost every other site on the web that allows user
submitted content and comments.
ME WRITES: SO, OTHERS DO IT AND THAT MAKE IS OKAY. IT APPEARS TO ME YOU ARE SAYING YOU WOULDN’T
TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR SOMEONE CRYING “FIRE” IN THE DARK THEATER.
I see that you feel very strongly in fundamental American
values so that must include the right for people to speak their mind if they
have a complaint. Freedom of speech and all that.
ME WRITES: SURE, BUT HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER THAT SAME
QUESTION WHEN IT IS YOUR TENDER YOUNGER , INNOCENT SISTER WHO WAS JUST
DEFAMED? …..HOW DO YOU UNRING THAT
BELL?
The way a company responds speaks louder than the complaint
itself. That’s why I even publish a guide to help companies post positive
responses. I’m sure you saw the list on this post. If not, here it is.
https://getoutofdebt.org//32199/…
ME WRITES: YES, I DID.
I TOOK ACCEPTION TO SOME OF ITS CONTENT.
I’m just going to offer my impression about your answer and
you can take it or leave it as free advice.
It feels as if you are not actively participating in
resolving the dispute with the consumer and helping them to get their refund in
a timely manner. For whatever reason the consumer feels the payment of $7,900
is related to your company, site, or product. Posting a disclaimer is not
helpful for a positive impression. But posting a response about how you helped
the consumer secure their refund would win you popular votes by future readers.
ME WRITES: WELL, STOP WITH YOUR FEELINGS AND START WITH
THE FACTS!
NOT EVERYONE IS DESERVING OF A REFUND JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY
SO.
THE CONSUMER IS WRONG WITH REGARDS TO THE CONSUMER TYING
THAT PAYMENT TO YRIITL.
FURTHERMORE, THAT CONSUMER IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO KNOW
BETTER.
AGAIN, THE FACT IS, THERE ARE NO REFUNDS TO ANYONE AT
YRIITL.
IF YOU DO BUSINESS WITH SOMEONE YRIITL HAS INTRODUCED YOU TO
– DON’T ASK YRIITL FOR A REFUND. WE’VE
HAD THIS POSTURE FOR 7 YEARS NOW AND IT HAS NOT BEEN A PROBLEM. THIS POLICY IS PUBLISHED IN 4 PLACES ON THE
WEB SITE AND WITH EVERY NATIONAL TELECONFERENCE CALL EACH NIGHT. NO ONE CAN SAY THEY DIDN’T KNOW. AND NOW I’VE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL EMAIL THAT
WILL GO OUT PRIOR TO EVERY FUTURE PURCHASE JUST IN THE EVENT SOMEONE DIDN’T SEE
THAT POSTED OR HEARD. …….JUST IN
CASE.
And I fail to see how insulting the integrity of myself or
the website assists your efforts in maintaining or creating a positive
impression of Your Remedy is in the Law.
ME WRITES: WHERE OH WHERE HAVE I INSULTED YOU? SEE?
YOU MAKE A CLAIM AND DON’T SUBSTANTIATE IT. I HONESTLY DON’T KNOW HOW YOU COULD BE INSULTED
OVER WHAT I’VE SAID SO FAR. I TRULY
DON’T.
Consumer complaints are not journalistic works, they are
user submitted content that is written and contributed by consumers.
ME WRITES: KIND OF LIKE A YOUNGER SISTERS PHONE NUMBER
WRITTEN ON A BATHROOM WALL?
To make this a good news story, hopefully your next response
will be that you helped the consumer get a refund they feel they deserve.
ME WRITES: FEELINGS AGAIN…. MAY WE PLEASE DEAL WITH THE FACTS?
Otherwise the bottom line remains that some consumer feels
they paid $7,900 that in some way related to your product and they feel
cheated. If they are going to complain here they will most likely complain on
other sites like ripoffreport.com, consumerfraudreporting.org, BBB.org,
scam.com, pissedconsumer.com, facebook.com, etc.
ME WRITES: YUP!
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY
ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN AND IS NOT INTERESTED IN THE
FACTS. I CALL THAT JUST ANOTHER FORM OF
EXTORTION.
………..AND YOU CALL IT FREE SPEACH.
FORTUNATELY FOR ME,
THE 7,000 PLUS MEMBERSHIP AT YRIITL WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO RESPOND TO THESE CONCERNS
YOU AND THE COMPLAINTANT HAVE IN THIS FORUM.
AS I AM SO FOND OF SAYING; TRUTH ALWAYS CONQUERS.
RESPECTFULLY,
MICHAEL EDWARD
800-625-4250
If I can read Mr, Edwards {Keith} right it seems what he is sayiing is that. He can advertise anything from YRITL he can make claims that are totllay false such as “there are 77 case of sucess” and atributing them to the process he’s advertising. NO PROOF AT ALL. Then a customer buys into this program and finds its not what he advertised it to be Mr Edwards feels he has no liability . Well Mr Edwards you are wrong in a multitude of ways. That is called false advertising if it can be proved that is what you claimed. Again I tell all people who want to make up their mind to go to http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/127605/Radio_Interview_John_Wright?rn=ufd2mdw9lnnk and listen to his phone interveiw with John Wright. Mr Edwards claims the Kammilla Harris was wrong in her prosecution of these kind of “predatory practices” He admits in the interveiw that he has never saw the cases that he uses to back up his claims and email blasts in regards to “77 wins” “I saw one” Mr Edwards {Keith} explains “thats good enough for me” Mr Wright says to him “BUT YOUR ADVERTISING 77” . He also admits tio 12 people getting scammed in a “Land Patent” process he was advertised. Mr Edwards says he feels bad for the people. Yet did Mr Edwards give back the money he collected in commision. HIs reply was “OF course not” Mr Edwards sees nothing wrong with this at all. 12 people scammed by someone he introduces them too. He collected his commision and now says the 12 people scammed are unfortunate. Do you see anything wrong with the this picture.
There is a growing number of people that have been SCAMMED and you can fight back. These companies hope you go away. In my opoinion if you dont say anything WHO WILL BE NEXT..
If any of you help tell your story to Steve Rhodes, or contact me @ dn********@*******al.net I will not release your name to Mr Edwards I will however show you how to fight back against anybody who trys to scam
Thanks
Darrell
You guys have an excuse for everything but the bottom line is you are a bunch of vultures preying on the likes of people in bad financial situations promising you can help them. But you deliver NOTHING. This is not the end of hearing from me! You and Rampart WILL be held responsible for your actions.
I am Michael Edward – YRIITL is my web site. This web site is one of 30 or so web sites which sit under http://www.AmericansRestoringAmerica.com. All websites are membership based.
BACKGROUND: YRIITL shares with its membership in an Educational Forum possible solutions to among other issues Home Foreclosure Remedies through a few of the Information Providers YRIITL publicizes.
I looked for verbiage explaining the above complaint, but only found Consumer Statement and Consumer Action, which is insufficient on its face to provide information from the Complainant other than this information.
If I may be allowed to correct error in TWO of these two statements.
(1) The YRIITL phone number is 800-625-4250
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(2) Consumer Statement: I was just scammed out of $7900 from Your Remedy is in the law.com.
Respondent Statement: DENIED
FACT: No contract exists nor were funds received from Complainant to where Complainant may identify a relationship to claim they were scammed by YRIITL. This irrefutable fact upon itself negates the allegation of the Complainant. By the Owner of GetOutOfDebt.org allowing the allegation – highly inflammatory and prejudicial – to be published in the public without any attempt to vet the facts, is, in the opinion of Michael Edward, irresponsible and tantamount to allowing someone to scream: “FIRE in a crowed theater.” without repercussions.
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Consumer Action Taken: I asked them for a refund which they refused.
Respondent Statement: AFFIRMED
FACT: I was contacted by Complainant and Complainant did make a Demand for Refund. I pointed out their contract and their payments were not made with Michael Edward and they ought to, by all means, go to the entity they contracted and paid. Michael Edward has done and continues to do everything to facilitate the communication between these two party’s.
END
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IF I MAY CONTINUE ON A PARALLEL THOUGHT.
In light of Darrel’s earlier questions and now the questions raised by this Complainant, I have modified my communications with the membership to add the following.
YRIITL has published on the Internet beginning in 2005. Up until recent it was never a question of the relationship existing between the membership and the Information Providers.
I publish this modifying letter to all present and future possible contracting between the YRIITL membership and the YRIITL Information Providers to avoid any future possible confusion.
Personally, I do not believe the following would have made one IOTA of difference with regards to the YRIITL membership contracting with the YRITL Information Providers.
CAVEAT EMPTOR – BUYER BEWARE
The following portion is coming to you as my CAVEAT EMPTOR –
BUYER BEWARE – to this upcoming purchase you are making privately with an
Information Provider who markets their product through this medium, YRIITL –
Your Remedy Is In The Law.
I,
Michael Edward, do this in an extraordinary attempt on my part to go above and
beyond what is necessary for me to have unquestionably ‘clean hands’ in your
dealings with an Information Provider through the IP’s exposure via YRIITL.
The
Truth Of the Matter
Is This:
Not
every effort on the part of the Information Provider is going to be
successful. We always hope for the
best. We plan for the best. BUT, unavoidable things happen…
And
when they do, you have to roll with it and deal with these things in life as
best as you can. The intent of every effort by any of the Information Providers
is always to have a successful outcome.
Information
Providers [IP] pay Michael Edward for advertising at YRIITL. This payment would
be an EXPENSE to the Information Provider along with other expenses the IP has
associated with your purchasing their product or service. Any attempt for a
refund would be a private matter between you and the Information Provider.
Consider
this: If you responded to an IP from an
advertisement the IP may have placed in USA TODAY or an infomercial on TV,
would you contact USA TODAY or the television station for a refund? The below
is found in two places at YRIITL; under the DISCLAIMER tab and at the PRODUCTS
and SERVICES tab. With each and every
nightly call, similar verbiage is spoken.
These are four points/places for a member of YRIITL to be advised of
the terms and conditions of responding to an Information Provider Offer of
Product or Service plus this eMail, which make five points/places to be advised
of the terms and conditions of your responding to an IP’s Offer of Product or
Service.
Products and Services
REFUND
POLICY:
There are no refunds or credits for purchase made. You are expected to have
exercised your due diligence prior to making a purchase. See http://www.yourremedyisinthelaw.com/testimonials as to what others have to say about these products.
DISCLAIMER: This web site, the eGroup;
Myrland’s Method’s and Cornforth Strategies, the telephone conference calls, http://www.FreedomsRadio.com and any and all communications to you in any form whatsoever
herein referred in the singular are for educational purposes only. It is not to
be construed as legal advice in any form or fashion; nor is it to advise you
about what you should or should not do. Any comments made by anyone in any of
the above mentioned formats are not offered as advice, explanation, opinion, or
recommendations to you about your possible legal rights, remedies, defenses,
options, selection of forms or strategies. Information disseminated is to
assist you in performing your own due diligence before implementing any
strategy or product. Information disseminated is offered as though the
disseminator were similarly situated to your situation. No one Hosting,
Moderating or Speaking is an attorney unless someone specifically states they
are an attorney and they provide their BAR number. Information shared is not a
substitute for legal advice from your own attorney. The information presented
throughout the various vehicles offer is not be interpreted as a substitute for
legal advice from your own attorney, nor as a substitute for one’s own
responsible evaluation, analysis or choices. The listener is responsible to
check out all information, answers, products, links mentioned to other sites,
and services on their own for accuracy and usefulness. In other words: Do your
own Due Diligence! Formal notice is hereby given to any and all government
employees and/or private citizens that: You have 10 days after listening to a
radio program or conference call to notify this site owner in writing of any
word, phrase, reference or statement which you deem to be inaccurate,
misleading or not in full compliance with state and federal law and to give
this site owner 30 days in which to correct and cure any and all alleged
potential flaws. It is the intent of this web site and all that is related to
it to be in strict compliance with the law at all times. This site owner is
NEVER responsible to for the comments, products or services of the Information
Providers herein you avail yourself to.
ADDITIONAL
DISCLAIMER:
It is not the purpose of
this web site to offer legal advice or act as fiduciary for anyone.
Michael-Edward: and/or this web site DOES NOT endorse the following Information
Providers as legal advisers. Michael-Edward: and/or this web site, to the best
of the knowledge of Michael-Edward:, nor any of the following Information
Providers offer legal advise. The following Information Providers may assist
you in discovering information which may be useful to you in resolving a
problem which you may be having. Michael-Edward: is NOT an Information
Provider. Michael-Edward: accepts only Gifts from the Member who freely gives.
Any payment[s] made to any Information Provider is between the Registered
Member and that Information Provider regardless if Michael-Edward: receives
money for the purpose of transferring money from the Registered Member to the
Information Provider. Michael-Edward: ONLY PROVIDES an umbrella to facilitate
communications between Information Providers and Members of
YourRemedyIsInTheLaw.com and accepts NO LIABILITY for any intercourse of any
nature between the Registered Member and the Information Provider.
NOTICE
OF POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST: Michael
Edward receives a portion of all proceeds generated by each Information
Provider found at Your Remedy Is In The Law. This method is the manner in which
these Information Providers pay Michael Edward for their presence here and
these funds generated by you paying the Information Provider, which the
Information Provider shares a portion with Michael Edward, go towards the
payment of the expenses generated by all which you find under http://www.AmericansWithPitchforks.com. So, on one hand Michael Edward desires to bring you, the YRIITL
member into contact with an Information Provider so you may be assisted in your
moment of need, yet at the same time Michael Edward will benefit should you do
this business with an Information Provider; a possible conflict of interest. As
lawyers, which I am not one, are fond of saying: GOVERN YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY…….
The NOTICE OF POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST was added to the above approximately a year ago at the behest of BLOGGER John Wright and Darrell. Although this was never, to my knowledge, not understood by the YRIITL membership, I thought it was Wisdom – a good idea – and added it for the benefit to further clarity as I do by generating and eMailing the above to any YRIITL member considering dealing with a YRIITL Information Provider.
Thank you, Mr. Rhodes for allowing me a forum with which to address these issues.
I do encourage you, before you publish another’s complaint that you personally invite the recipient of that complaint the opportunity to be heard prior to that negative writing to be viewed by The World.
All responsible watchdog journalists I’ve witnessed verify their facts from multiple sources first and courtesy the subject of the article the opportunity to be included in the article.
I do not see where this was done by you.
The very foundation of this Complainant is error.
Now, how does one unring the bell?
Regards,
Michael Edward
How do you un-ring the bell you ask. Well I’d start with making sure there are no unhappy customers that are out any money.
Financially distressed consumers are considered to be a disadvantaged class of consumers by many regulators and they get additional attention.
The best thing is to stop complaints before they escalate to people feeling as if they need to go online and post their discontent.
Rather than encouraging communication between the consumer and the other party you mention, to un-ring this bell you would probably have had to taken a very active role between the two entities and help the consumer get their money back. If they had they would not have felt a reason to complain.
The posting is a consumer submission and is not verified by the site before it’s posted. It is consumer submitted content, just like comments (including your comment) and this approach exists on posts on almost every other site on the web that allows user submitted content and comments.
I see that you feel very strongly in fundamental American values so that must include the right for people to speak their mind if they have a complaint. Freedom of speech and all that.
The way a company responds speaks louder than the complaint itself. That’s why I even publish a guide to help companies post positive responses. I’m sure you saw the list on this post. If not, here it is. https://getoutofdebt.org//32199/how-to-handle-a-consumer-complaint-like-a-pro-and-come-out-smelling-like-a-rose
I’m just going to offer my impression about your answer and you can take it or leave it as free advice.
It feels as if you are not actively participating in resolving the dispute with the consumer and helping them to get their refund in a timely manner. For whatever reason the consumer feels the payment of $7,900 is related to your company, site, or product. Posting a disclaimer is not helpful for a positive impression. But posting a response about how you helped the consumer secure their refund would win you popular votes by future readers.
And I fail to see how insulting the integrity of myself or the website assists your efforts in maintaining or creating a positive impression of Your Remedy is in the Law. Consumer complaints are not journalistic works, they are user submitted content that is written and contributed by consumers.
To make this a good news story, hopefully your next response will be that you helped the consumer get a refund they feel they deserve. Otherwise the bottom line remains that some consumer feels they paid $7,900 that in some way related to your product and they feel cheated. If they are going to complain here they will most likely complain on other sites like ripoffreport.com, consumerfraudreporting.org, BBB.org, scam.com, pissedconsumer.com, facebook.com, etc.
Who did you request a refund from? What program did you purchase?
All of the parties involved including Michael Lawrence, Michael Edwards and Omni Home Solutions, LLC. So far Michael Edwards says he is just the marketer for Michael Lawrence so I need to get my refund from Michael Lawrence. Michael Lawrence says a portion of my refund should come from Michael Edwards who received some of my money and bottom line is neither seems to be interested in refunding anything.
Did you speak with ME yet?. What was his reply? Did they promise you anything? Did they remove you from the Omni program?
You can contact me at dn********@*******al.net if you need more help. I am very familiar with this program and YRITL. If ME wont help you contact me asap… Check out article http://piggybankblog.com/2012/05/22/radio-interview-with-john-wright-on-michael-edwards-show-about-michael-lawrences-remedies-to-the-law-and-omni-program/