Mitchell Stein, one of the attorneys that was raid in California in August for related mass joinder marketing, just received a very unfavorable court ruling in his attempt to wiggle something out from under the seizure of his law practice.
I’ve even heard rumblings from some that Stein was returning to practice, got his client files back and was ready to proceed with his pay to join mass lawsuits against mortgage companies and banks.
If you call 213-765-1639 you hear the following message.
The court saw it otherwise.
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“In addition, Stein contends he did not participate in the prohibited conduct, arguing that he was a victim. However, the evidence submitted belies that contention and compromises his credibility.
As more fully set forth in the Tentative Ruling on the People’s Petition, there is ample evidence to the contrary. Matthew Davis’ declaration demonstrates that Stein was working with Kramer and the non-attorney defendants. Clarence Butt and Thomas Phanco in their declarations attached to the Receiver’s Report, recount a meeting led by Kramer and Stein about the mass joinder lawsuits. Glen Reneau admits he met with Stein on three occasions. Even emails from Defendant Kramer confirm his involvement and receipt of payment from the Kramer offices.
It is simply not believable that Stein did not participate in the mass joinder lawsuit marketing scheme.”
The Scheme
Stein’s Victim Claim
You can read the rest of Stein’s claim and more of the ruling by reading the full court order here.
Mitchell J. Stein was ordered inactive to not eligible to practice law in California on January 1, 2012.
Mr Rodes,
Mr wright gives a compelling argument, I doesn’t seem like you and Krista do your homework. I can see going after Philip Kramer for the debacle and the rest of those scum bags involved in the mailer scam. I could be wrong but it seems like you and Krista have some unknown motive for making up and repeating these half truths about Mitchell Stein.
Ask any one in the legal feild and they will tell tell you Stein is a brilliant litigator and has the goods on these banks. Stein has not been convicted of anything and he hasn’t even had his chance to answer any of the allegations. ALLEGATIONS…….. Any person who has a half a mind can see this was a political play. Even a laymen like myself. So what gives with the 2 of you. John Wright has seemed to do his homework in this case. Yet you and Krista seem to have a personal motivation.
People like me come to your sites for real, truthful information. Can you stop with these HIT PIECES Just report the facts
So what facts are you saying are wrong? I’m happy to correct any fact which is wrong.
I have no personal bone to pick against Stein.
If you have information on Kramer you feel is relevant and I should publish, please send it in.
John,
You are free to add any comment you want to either article to clear up any confusion you think exists or fact which is incorrect.
You asked me to take out the “But” and I did as a favor to you. But I’m done with your edits now.
I never said I would post it on the other article, I asked if I could. I decided not to since after reviewing the other article, it made the point. You gain no credibility with me by making accusations that are simply not true.
Please fee free to rant and rage on without me.
John,
The story I was talking being published was this one. It already says that.
There is no need to add it to that story when it’s already there.
And for accuracy, I said rant and rage, not rant and rave.
That’s very interesting, DN. So…..clearly we have a brilliant and experienced litigator with the access and means to not only hire the best advocates but to work hand in hand with them in his own defense. So what does he do? He pleads guilty. Hmmmm. I wonder if any reasonable conclusions can possibly be inferred from this?
I’ll tell you one thing. If anyone knows if that cheesy Doberman painting is part of the auction, let me know. I will bid size on that singularly revealing piece of crap. It’s freakin beeeeyooooteeeefoool. If it was velvet it would be a masterpiece. I simply must have it for my collection . I’m really getting into post-Enron corporate criminal bohunk art.
Dear Mel,
Are you on prescription medication? I didnt see any other attorneys coming out to fight the banks.. It was Stein who brought all this out. It was groundbreaking at the time and now you can see attorneys in every state filing AG’s all over the country investigating the banks Federal goverment ramping up investigations against the banks. I dont know if what your writing is true or you have an ax to grind with Stein. Did Stein steal your girlfriend or something? Did he give you a wedgy in gym class? Sound like your really obsessed with Mitchell Stein. Do you Love HIm? Do you secretly WANT him Mel. You know when people are atracted to other people they lash out sometimes at the ones the really love. Dont drag us into your obsession with Mitchell Stein.
Dear Mel,
Are you on prescription medication? I didnt see any other attorneys coming out to fight the banks.. It was Stein who brought all this out. It was groundbreaking at the time and now you can see attorneys in every state filing AG’s all over the country investigating the banks Federal goverment ramping up investigations against the banks. I dont know if what your writing is true or you have an ax to grind with Stein. Did Stein steal your girlfriend or something? Did he give you a wedgy in gym class? Sound like your really obsessed with Mitchell Stein. Do you Love HIm? Do you secretly WANT him Mel. You know when people are atracted to other people they lash out sometimes at the ones the really love. Dont drag us into your obsession with Mitchell Stein.
” I dont know if what your writing is true or you have an ax to grind with Stein.”
What? That I would bid on that cheesy doberman painting at auction? Yes, that is completely true. The rest of this flumdiddle you’ve posted? Not so much.
I’m a big fan of Karma. I’m not a big fan of Stein, going waaaaaaay back to his days with Lidak, Avanir, Healthmed, NCFE etc.
Hey, at least I have a sense of humor. I know the folks who are working this case aren’t nearly as jocular.
Happy New Year Mel. Who knows were this will go now.
I do.
Nope. No medication. Although Eileen and Bill Perman are both on medication and when the Bronstein family found out what they were tangled up with, they needed meds too. Oh man, you have no idea.
Then we showed them a picture of 24600 John Colter and they really went nuttso. The only thing that can flip a patsy faster than me are the relatives of said patsy. We call these things Taco Bell cases because when they are so well made, someone always makes a run for the border.
John, I am confused as to why you are so adamant regarding Stein being active and authorized to practice law? He doesn’t have possession of his files and his accounts are frozen. I can’t imagine him taking on paying clients given the circumstances, and if he is willing to take on clients pro bono, I don’t think they would care what Steve wrote. Steve put out the Court Orders and Transcripts, and potential clients can make a decision from there.
Again, why is this such a bone of contention?
Oh for christ’s sake. People, this guy IS Mitch Stein. There’s never been an internet board or discussion forum about him or any of his companies that he didn’t post on as a regular member.
There. Cat’s out of the bag.
Have a wonderful Festivus, Mitch. The airing of the grievances is coming…… and its coming real hard.
John, I chided you for writing an article about what happened at the hearing without having been to the hearing, read the transcript, or reviewed the order. Furthermore, your comments referring to the Honorable Judge Jane Johnson as the Elderly Judge Jane Johnson and implying that she is senile are out of line and disrespectful. Just because you have an interest in Stein due to your case is no reason for you to attack her acumen or character. Shame on you, John Wright.
I read the transcript and the ruling, and I can say four things definitively:
1. The court does not find Mitchell J. Stein credible.
2. The court issued an Injunction and made the order permanent.
3. The court made the interim orders re: Jurisdiction over Stein’s law practice Permanent.
4. The court denied Stein’s ex-parte motion re: asset freeze.
As to the LLP, the court cited that Mitchell J. Stein did not submit proper evidence to the court regarding the existence of the LLP. In reading the orders and the transcript, the Judge acted appropriately. The LLP cannot be found in a search of the CA Secretary of State’s website, and document submitted was not a certified document and did not come from the CA Secretary of State. The fact that Stein thought it was more important to blow up an uncertified, inadmissible document from the State Bar to hold up for the peanut gallery rather than properly submit certified documents from the Secretary of State to the proper filing with the CA SOS under the B & P Code (and discloses the identities of all the partners) demonstrates a lack of judgment and possible disrespect for the court.
But, the issue goes further than the mere existence of the LLP in that even if the LLP exists (which the court did not have evidence of at the hearing), the court observed that Stein was the only partner as Davis had assumed private practice and Riley is not a member of the CA Bar (which makes him ineligible to practice law in the State of California). Hence, the Judge rejected Stein’s argument.
As to the overwhelming evidence, the Honorable Judge Jane Johnson stated in the hearing:
THE COURT: ALL RIGHT. WELL, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE MY MIND WITH RESPECT TO THE TENTATIVE RULING ON THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION. WHILE I DIDN’T QUOTE ALL THE EVIDENCE IN THE TENTATIVE, IT’S AN 18-PAGE TENTATIVE. IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A 65-PAGE TENTATIVE HAD I QUOTED ALL OF THE EVIDENCE.
If you don’t understand the evidence, I suggest you obtain a copy and read through all of it. While you claim that some of the individuals are criminals and not credible, then why Stein do business with them? You, yourself, have had dealings with Damien Kutcher, and Brookstone Law is representing you in your case. Is Vito Torchia not credible? Is that what you are saying?
What about all the emails? Emails from Stein, to Stein, and/or copied to Stein? What about the checks payable to Stein that were processed by APC? What about the Kramer clients that were added to the Ronald vs. B of A case? BTW, there was an email from Kramer to Stein re: Stein rolling over on him.
I don’t hate Stein; I just don’t buy spin or propaganda. Steve did not say that Stein is not allowed to practice law, but moreover commented that he had heard rumblings that Stein was returning to practice, got his client’s file back, and was ready to resume the pay to join mass lawsuits. There have indeed been rumblings on the internet, and Stein stated he intends to continue to practice. However, the order giving the CA Bar Jurisdiction over Stein’s practice is permanent. The files are not being returned, and his accounts are still frozen. Furthermore, no member of the LLP has stepped up to assume the practice, so posting the CA Bar’s recording is reasonable.
Really John, if Steve doesn’t post the court orders and transcripts and report the facts, who will? You? Andelman? I don’t think so. Andelman is silent, and most of what you do is mock government officials and take potshots at respectable judges while ignoring salient information.
John,
Are you saying the transcript forwarded to me was not correct? What’s in error?
And John, if you have any documents you want to forward to me, please feel free to.
Steve
John and Martin, I apologize for the comment about not reporting the facts. I did note that John has since posted the transcript. I have also talked to Martin who said he is still weeding through the documentation and is too busy working on other things at this time to attempt to comment.
As I have told John and Martin, I apologize for my tone, and since we are friends, need to keep it friendly and fight nice.
John: First off, I apologized for the tone of my previous comment. I am glad to see that you have posted the transcript. I also spoke to Andelman, and he said he hasn’t read all the documents and so he can’t comment right now. I agree that you do deserve dignity and respect, and introducing such a negative tone only detracts from the issues and creates hard feelings.
I did, however, talk to the CA DOC today and was informed that LLP’s should show up in the Secretary of State’s records, and tested it again by checking on another LLP that I know is registered. Of course, Stein could make things easier by simply providing documentation from the Secretary of State/Department of Corporations.
After reviewing his website, I did note that his website states:
“This is the Official Website of Mitchell J. Stein & Associates LLP. For avoidance of doubt, this law Firm has never been sued by the State of California or the California State Bar. This firm has never been disciplined, nor have any of its members.”http://www.dobielaw.org/default.html
Obviously, it would be easier if Stein would provide evidence of his LLP once and for all. But regardless of the existence of the LLP, the fact still remains that the AG is suing Mitchell J. Stein, and I do believe that he is a person that is also an attorney practicing law. I am also looking at a court transcript and orders naming Mitchell J. Stein as a Defendant.
As to the evidence, it is not just the Declarations of Damian and Vito, there are also Declarations of other affiliates, co-counsel, and the CA Bar investigator. In addition to the declarations, there are emails which demonstrate that a business relationship did exist including an email from APC to Vito that copied Stein regarding the processing a checks and retainers. As to the checks, I am still at a loss to figure out how third party checks were deposited. The Honorable Judge Jane Johnson did state in court that the tentative would have been much longer if she had cited all the evidence. However, I agree that it is important to see what transpires throughout the legal proceedings.
You are well within your right to interpret the information and exhibits in the filings as you see fit. However, it is also my right to take the documents seriously and form my own opinion. Nonetheless, I will give Mr. Stein the opportunity to present his case and refute the facts. Until he has done so, I only have the documents that are filed in which to form a opinion right now.
As to my lawsuit, this is no secret, and in fact, I have publicly commented on ML Implode that I think the article should be taken down or revised. As soon as the lawsuit is over, I will issue a public apology and update the article for whoever is willing to publish it. The reason for the corrections is because the data and testimony were not reliable. Unless you were well versed in FHA underwriting, delinquency reporting, the Credit Watch Termination Initiative, OIG reports and testimony of HUD officials, Annual Actuarial Reviews of the MMI Fund, FHA Outlook Reports, history of FHA rule making on the subject, or the history of FHA delinquency rates and correlating changes (read: loosening) of FHA underwriting guidelines, I do not think you would understand why or how I came to believe that FHA data regarding Seller Funded Down Payment Grants should be deemed unreliable. And unless you knew who actually gave testimony as “Mr. House” and that person’s history with the Plaintiff, you would not have the necessary information to be able to comment on the lawsuit intelligently. That is not meant as a knock, but moreover, to point out that the matter is simply to complex for most to understand, and again, only detracts from the discussion regarding the mass joinders.
I will say, however, that I highly doubt that I am the only person in the history of man who has ever made a mistake and taken action to rectify the mistake. I suspect that I am not alone, and perhaps there is a reason why pencils generally have erasers on the end.
The important thing here is that we do not let our opinions get erode our decorum or friendship. I do hope that you are able to resolve your issues with Bank of America, and keep your home.
Now would be a good time for you to be very careful.
Slow your roll there Norma Rae. I’m just trying to help you out. The guy has gone radioactive. He was ostensibly a consumer advocate who turns around and pleads guilty to criminal charges of securities fraud. That’s some king size cognitive dissonance.If you see that and still feel the need to shill for the ludicrous idea of paying retainer on a mass joinder then you need to be careful about one of the following:
A) Information about relationships and understandings that comes out while plea bargaining with guys facing 30 years or,
B) Revolving doors and shiny object while driving your Honda.
People will get to the bottom of this. All the way to the bottom. I’d be running, not walking away from all things Mitch Stein.
***except for that groovy doberman painting. That would look so good next to my velvet Elvis and my “Proud to be Amerkin” t-shirt signed by Lee Greenwood and Jeff Skilling.
Mr. Rhodes,
.
It might appear that you are once again using a little bit
of the truth to sell a lie. This might
be in hopes of maybe leading your readers to what you think about Mr. Stein,
instead of based on the facts.
.
Facts:
1.
Mitchell J. Stein can indeed practice law. The only ones that might be misleading the
public with deceptive and misleading advertising is the State Bar with this
recording you are talking about. You
state the following: “I’ve even
heard rumblings from some that Stein was returning to practice, got his client
files back and was ready to proceed with his pay to join mass lawsuits against
mortgage companies and banks. But if you call 213-765-1639 you hear the
following message.”
For the record, Mr.
Stein is not returning to practice, but he has never left his practice. However, is this reference to the Bar
recording to give your readers the idea that Mr. Stein received some kind of
unfavorable ruling saying that he cannot practice law?
Mr. Rhodes, had you
used due diligence, you could see in the transcripts from the hearing that even
the judge admits that Mr. Stein can indeed practice law. Now I already know that you are going to refer
to the recording again, however, I submit to you proof that the State Bar readily
admits that Mr. Stein can indeed practice law, while I submit to you the following
recording that I have from the State Bar, which incidentally, you could have
also called and confirmed before misleading your readers to think that Mr.
Stein cannot practice. – http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gm-3R7lzD8M
2. Matthew Davis has never met or even talked to Mr. Stein in his
entire life. Is it possible that Matthew
Davis was being misled to believe that Stein was involved, but only so the
marketers could convince him that it was all legit and he continue being the
potential fall guy? Totally
possible!
3. Every person who gave a declaration was in receipt of money from
the mailer scam, who could be giving their testimony so the authorities will go
light on them.
4. The ones giving the declarations have a questionable past, in which
might render them not credible at the end of the day. One of them has a record for being a felon,
while doing time for fraud. Does that
mean they are capable of lying? You bet
it does!
5. Mr. Stein is the only one who is not in receipt of any money and
has signed no retainers for the mailer scheme.
What would be his interest then?
6. Is it possible that the people who gave the declarations were angry
at Mr. Stein because he would not sign the retainers for their mailer scam? Was this their way of getting him back? Do the math. (wink)
.
With that being said, the hearing was
not a trial Mr. Rhodes. The elderly
Judge Johnson only expressed that she believed that there was enough evidence
to suggest that it should go to trial. Which
I am sure you agree that Mr. Stein is innocent until proven guilty in a court
of law. The elderly Judge Johnson
refused to allow Mr. Stein to submit evidence to un-substantiate what she
called a “mountain of evidence.”
However, it does not suggest that Mr. Stein does not have evidence to
disprove the allegations set forth in this complaint are FALSE.
.
Therefore, the question is why is
Mitchell J. Stein allowed to practice law if there is this “mountain of
evidence” that the judge claims there is?
I will tell you why, it is because it is a bunch of bullshit, and the
judge appeared to be biased according to every single person that I interviewed
that was in that courtroom. Some
theorize it might be because the judge had or has somewhere two million dollars
invested in the mortgage loan pooling, in which one can draw their own
conclusions to why the elderly judge might be interested in Mr. Stein not being
able to fight the banks.
.
In conclusion, your article once again
seems not only to be biased, but in the end, it ultimately seems
unsubstantiated by the facts.
.
My name is John Wright AND I AM FIGHTIG
BACK!
.
John Wright
Piggybankblog.com
I never said he couldn’t practice law. It’s made clear in the hearing transcript which I published yesterday here.
What it implied was readers could listen to the message. What I said was “But if you call 213-765-1639 you hear the following message.”
And so you have.
Can I post it over here on this newest story instead? See LA Court Issues Permanent Order Assuming Jurisdiction Over the Law Practice of Mitchell J. Stein.
Maybe he should post it next to the story about Mitchell J. Stein pleading GUILTY on Dec. 18 to criminal charges of stock fraud and price manipulation. How about that?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/21/42428.htm
Or I suppose he could post it inside another story about Mitchell Stein’s role in the failures of EMedsoft, National Century Financial Enterprises, World Commerce Bank, Lidak Pharmaceutical, Recom, Signalife, Chartwell, Avanir Pharmaceutical, etc. etc. etc.
Or howzabout he posts it in a story about Mr. Stein’s dealings with Regis Possino Martin Sumichrast, Sim Farar, Lance Poulsen, Raul Silvestre, Frank Magliochetti, Ken Londoner, Wendy Feldman, Rebbecca Parret, Dennis Hawk, Manny Barling, or the representative operations of Adnan Khashoggi , Amador Pastrana and Rakesh Saxena?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakesh_Saxena
If I were you, I’d be very careful about getting too Hyperbolic and confrontational with anyone critical of Mr. Stein. You have know idea what you’re up against. Really. No idea. You know Mr. Stein, yes? Classic narcissist. he wouldn’t admit fault or give up control under ANY circumstances that were not extremely compelling. And yet…….he plead guilty to some not so insignificant charges.
Figure it out. It doesn’t take a Philadelphia lawyer to know the jig’s up. A Pittsburghian will do just fine.
Wow, John. You have such a deep and intimate knowledge of Mitchell Stein’s business dealings. You know who he’s seen, who he has never seen, who he has agreements with, who he doesn’t have agreements with, what his strategy is, etc. etc. etc.
Let me ask you 2 questions, uhhh “John”. Two very serious questions.
1. Since you can’t take in any more rubes, what’s the freakin point?
2. Do you really think it’s a good idea at this stage of the game to piss off the people who know everything?
Mel Content…you would’ve made a great addition to the Recom/Signalife/Heart Tronics message board. Or perhaps you were there.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_H/messagesview?bn=27040
I’m a victim of the MED stock scam. I recognize so many names you mentioned. Many were among the 40+ names listed on my DOJ Grand Jury subpoena from several years ago.
I suspect there still might be a few people for the Feds to round up. I don’t believe Stein has pled guilty to anything yet…althought IMO he could easily get 15 years if his Heart Tronics case goes to trial. I was told by one Federal Agent that the MED and Signalife/Heart Tronics frauds could make a nice RICO case.
Would love to hear some of your insights on the Yahoo HRTT message board.
Great job Steve. I appreciate all your work in putting out information that the mass joinder cohorts do not want the public to know. Again, great work!
Sorry
Krista, but that is not good work. This
is because it is not true. You have always taught me to use due diligence in
researching the facts. Though I like Steve, I think he did not call the bar for
comment like I did. I am wondering why you are not getting on him about not
using due diligence like you used to with me? Is it because you do not like
Stein, and therefore, you just approve of anything that puts him in bad light? Or
is it how they tried to take down Clinton for a blowjob, but because they could
not get him on all the other things they felt he was guilty for?
With that
being said, do you want Mr. Stein not to be able to practice law so that there
will be victims? None of his clients are
complaining or claiming that they were misled, but in fact, Mr. Stein came in
with something like a 100 affidavits saying the contrary. I do not hear anyone reporting on that?
Krista,
you are trying to create victims by wanting this man to not be able to practice
law. I am not sure you are best
representing the clients in Mr. Stein’s lawsuit on this issue. You want them to
be victims, that is if you want Stein to not be able to practice law. There is something wrong with that kid, and
it would appear to be a selfish self-motivated agenda if you continue to
applaud such terrible work, such as rewarding Steve for making the reach that
the bar was saying Mr. Stein cannot practice law because of the recording.
Krista,
it is not fair that you are putting Mr. Stein on trial here without him being
able to dispute these allegations while he is in litigation. It is a sort of
“put your hands down while I hit you” and it is not fair Krista.
Listen, I
have done much more work on following this lawsuit then Steve, as you already
know. However, I did not see you leaving
a comment on my blog thanking me for my hard work? All I could see was a link on my blog trying
to hijack my readers to the misleading implications on this page that you
wanted them to read.
Please
use due diligence before concluding that Mr. Stein could not practice law. Please “do the math” correctly next time.
Your
friend always,
John
Wright
piggybankblog.com